# 5HC: Dopey and Doh! *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 15 Dec 2000* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Michael Andre-Driussi *15 Dec 2000, 11:31* > In a previous mess, I wrote: > The largest group we see are seven > Two are wrinkled and stiff (elderly) > One is a woman > Two are neither old nor young (adult) > Two are little more than boys > to which we add Sandwalker, as shadow friend: seven males, one woman. > > Sounds like a creepy Snow White to me. Since nobody else is going to run with it, I must patiently point out that, much as we might like Sandwalker to be "Dopey" of the six dark dwarfs, in fact it is Dopey ("sacred" in his intoxication) who challenges Sandwalker and finally scratches him. > One more tangential tidbit: re: the claimed abo naming conventions of Mary > and John. It is interesting that this does not appear in "A Story" at all, > with the exception of the infant Mary Pink Butterflies. No! At birth the twins are named John: John Eastwind and John Sandwalker. =mantis= ---