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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/2540",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 2540,
    "subject": "\"Triskele\" is unrelated to \"Triste\"",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2001-01-11T06:27:50+00:00",
    "last": "2001-01-11T17:20:59+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0240@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan Rabin",
        "address": "email-reply at danrabin.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-01-11T06:27:50+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) \"Triskele\" is unrelated to \"Triste\"",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "It is more likely that \"Triskele\" is used in the sense of a design in \nthe form of three running legs (or stylizings thereof) arranged at \n120-degree angles with the \"hip\" being the center of a circle. \nMerriam-Webster online gives the term as a variant of \"Triskelion\". \nTriskele has three legs (and a stump, but perhaps\n\nSuch a design serves as the symbol of the Isle of Man see \n<http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/im.html>.  It would not be \nun-Wolfean for \"Isle of Man\" to have some bearing on the choice of \nthe name for the dog.  (Hmmm--isolation of Man???)  BUT (!!!) the web \npage mentioned says, \"According to Norse mythology, the triskelion \nwas a symbol of the movement of the sun through the heavens\".\n\nI was all set to crow at this find just now, but I calmed down enough \nto check _Lexicon Urthus_, in which mantis cites John Clute giving an \nApollonian connection for the symbol.  Darn.\n\nSo Severian's healing of Triskele symbolically brings the New Sun, or \nthe New Sun symbolically arises at his touch, or (if we admit what we \nlearn in _Urth of the New Sun_) the New Sun gives a symbolic token of \nhis coming to the young Severian, which token also sort-of leads him \nto the Atrium of Time, and also makes the structure sort of cyclic \n(just like the sun, and like Divine Years), and...\n\nSomeone else please pick this up and run with it--my head hurts, and \nI have to save it for _Return to the Whorl_ :-).\n\nIt would also be non-un-Wolfean for the dog character to have been \n*derived* from the symbolic connection.\n\n   -- Dan Rabin\n\nP.S. The \"-skele\" element also occurs in \"isosceles\"."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0241@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Peter Westlake",
        "address": "peter at harlequin.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "2001-01-11T17:20:59+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) \"Triskele\" is unrelated to \"Triste\"",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0030-0240@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "At 06:27 2001-01-11 -0800, Dan Rabin wrote:\n..."
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          "text": "Such a design serves as the symbol of the Isle of Man see \n<http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/im.html>.  It would not be \nun-Wolfean for \"Isle of Man\" to have some bearing on the choice of \nthe name for the dog.  (Hmmm--isolation of Man???) "
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          "text": "Try saying \"Isle of Man\" out loud, and you get a very doggy sentiment.\nIf true, it would just be too clever. I wouldn't put it past Wolfe, though!\n\nSpectacled Bear."
        }
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