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  "thread": {
    "id": 2552,
    "subject": "5HC: hiding which celestial",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2001-01-23T08:28:40+00:00",
    "last": "2001-01-23T08:28:40+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0258@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at sirius.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-01-23T08:28:40+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) 5HC: hiding which celestial",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Rostrum wrote:\nReading \"A Story,\" I got the impression that the field was hiding St. Anne\nfrom an already-settled-by-humans St. Croix, not shielding the whole\nsystem from Earth.  In the story, the humans show up almost instantly\nafter Shadowchild terminates the song (which seems odd, even if they were\njust on the sister planet), and I also thought it odd that no one on\nSt. Croix mentions St. Anne suddenly appearing out of nowhere - if that\nhad happened, you'd expect it to be known as \"the planet that suddenly\nappeared out of nowhere.\"  On the other hand, I guess the astronomers\nmight have thought they simply hadn't noticed it until then.\n\nAm I misinterpreting all this?"
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          "text": "Granted many details: the \"just in time\" arrival of the French greatly\nstrains realism; that the inhabitants of Ste. Anne sense the cloaking\neffect as something in the sky (makes it seem located more in the\natmosphere than in far orbit); and probably more.  It is just a story\n(anthropological reconstruction/romance), even within the context of the\nlarger story of Ste. Anne/Ste. Croix.\n\nStill, the place is called \"Frenchman's Landing.\"  The system had been\npassed over for worlds many light-years further away (i.e., Ste. Croix by\nitself would not have been passed over).  The cloaking itself may have only\nchanged the appearance of the star rather than actually hiding the planets,\nbut as I'm saying, since the sun looks the same cloaking on/cloaking off,\nthen the cloaking effect must be projected beyond the orbit of the twin\nplanets (they orbit inside the field and see the star as it really is).\nThe rest of the universe sees the system as completely incapable of having\nhabitable planets.\n\nWhile I can understand the notion that the cloak just hides Ste. Anne from\nSte. Croix, built from those details (and convincing within the confines of\n\"A Story\"), I never really considered it for long.\n\n=mantis="
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