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  "thread": {
    "id": 2564,
    "subject": "Cherry Jubilee and the novel Red Star",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2001-02-10T11:20:30+00:00",
    "last": "2001-02-10T11:20:30+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0276@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Marc A Aramini",
        "address": "maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu"
      },
      "date": "2001-02-10T11:20:30+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Cherry Jubilee and the novel Red Star",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "A few years ago I had to read an old russian science fiction novel\ncalled \"Red Star\" by Bogdanov for a Russian History class.  In it, a\nyoung political activist in Russia is taken in a space ship by a \"youth\"\nto Mars where he sees a true utopia based on socialism.  He falls in\nlove with the youth, who turns out to be a female alien.  Wolfe has\ndefinitely read this novel, but I can't make many connections with the\nstory Cherry Jubilee, which so obviously has the ship Red Star captained\nby Bogdanov.  Has anyone else read this novel?  Do you see any parallels\nin the stories?  Is there an alien masquerading as a youth in the short\nstory?\n\nAnd one more thing:  even though this doesn't belong here, it isn't a\nspoiler and I do not subscribe to the whorl list.  I just finished GK\nChesterton's \"The Man who Knew Too much\" in which the bald \"hero\" Horne\nFisher knows too much about everthing.  At one point he is called a real\nfisher of men, and at the end when he finally performs a\nself-sacrificing act to save England, Chesterton says, \"the man who knew\nto much knew what was worth knowing.\"  Well, at the end of a recent\nWolfe novel, fishing seems to play some important, but mysterious part. \nCould the bald Horne Fisher from Chesterton have influenced Wolfe?\n\nI would appreciate any input you all have.  (Of course, I peruse both\nlists, so if you think some responses would be more appropriate on the\nother list, please post them there)  \nMarc Aramini"
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