Phillip Pullman [Digest urth.v030.n091] The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 23 Apr 2001 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/2598 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== John Bishop — 23 Apr 2001, 16:10 I'll chime in to agree with the Pullman consensus: the third book fails to close the arc started in the first two, and drops the ball thematically and practically. (*mild spoiler*) A reviewer elsewhere [on the Bujold list] spoke of "boinking to save the universe". I therefore re-read that section closely, and it's not certain they did "boink", but it's likely--and it just doesn't make sense, given what went before, or how things were shown to work in the multiverse he proposed. (*end spoiler*) I liked _Golden_Compass_ enough to buy one of Pullman's other novels, _Ruby_in_the_Smoke_, which turns out to have all the same virtues and flaws as the "His Dark Materials" triology in one volume: really good characters, a wonderfully detailed portrayal of an imagined world (in this case 1878 London), an interesting situation--and a total collapse into nonsense at the end, when the author can't seem to figure out how to end the story without breaking his own rules. (*Serious spoiler for _Ruby_in_the_Smoke_) The villian is Mrs Holland (a nasty old lady who runs a lodging house in Wapping and a gang on the side, and who I hoped would continue because she was such a wonderful, clever, perceptive villian) confronts the heroine at the climax of the book. When all is almost in her grasp, she suddenly _goes_mad_ and _kills_herself_ in a couple of paragraphs! This absurd action is completely unforshadowed, no matter how convenient for the heroine it is. (*end spoiler) There were other things to boggle at, but that one truly shocked me--how could an author so competent would let that text even get written, let alone printed escapes me. What a shame. -John Bishop ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William Ansley — 23 Apr 2001, 23:10 follows, by subject match John Bishop > At 4:10 PM -0400 4/23/01, John Bishop wrote: > I liked _Golden_Compass_ enough to buy one of Pullman's > other novels, _Ruby_in_the_Smoke_, which turns out to have > all the same virtues and flaws as the "His Dark Materials" > triology in one volume: really good characters, a wonderfully > detailed portrayal of an imagined world (in this case 1878 > London), an interesting situation--and a total collapse > into nonsense at the end, when the author can't seem to > figure out how to end the story without breaking his own > rules. Thank you, John! This is so much better put than my messages. That's exactly how I felt; the last book collapsed into nonsense and he broke his own rules. I wish I hadn't brought up the anti-religious aspect of the books at all now. It really was a side issue. William Ansley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------