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  "thread": {
    "id": 260,
    "subject": "Digest urth.v005.n050",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1997-11-20T13:36:04+00:00",
    "last": "1997-11-20T13:36:04+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0005-0396@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Paul C Duggan",
        "address": "pduggan at world.std.com"
      },
      "date": "1997-11-20T13:36:04+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Digest urth.v005.n050",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "From: \"Tony Ellis\" <tellis at futurenet.co.uk>\nSubject: Re: Dr. Talos' Play\n\nAs we might expect from a play called \"Eschatology and Genesis\", this\nis also a re-telling of the Genesis story. The Biblical Genesis story is\nitself a re-telling of earlier Sumerian genesis stories, as I'm sure =\nWolfe\nknows. There is even a throwaway reference to a Greek genesis myth:\nin Greek mythology the survivors of the flood are told to repopulate the\nworld by throwing stones (the bones of Mother Earth) over their =\nshoulders,\nand in the play we have:\n\nMESCHIANE: It might come to life. I heard something once about\nraising sons from stones."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I had originally thought that that was a reference to Jesus words about\nbeing able to raise up stones as sons of abraham as a warning to those who\ntrusted in their heritage to save them. I don't know if that fits the\nreference very well without looking."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "The names Meschia and Meschiane... I have an idea that these are the\nnames of Adam and Eve in another (Hebrew?) genesis myth. Any ideas?"
        },
        {
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I remember from the Urth Dictionary that they were from the (persian)\nKoran?"
        },
        {
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Nod, the giant, is one of the Nephilim. Go back to the Biblical Genesis\nstory and you'll find the Nephilim described as the offspring of angels\nand the \"Sons of God\" - one of those little details which reminds us that\nthis story originated as Sumerian creation myth. Who were the Sons of\nGod? Nobody knows for sure, but they obviously have no place in the \nconventional Christian universe."
        },
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          "text": "Huh? Part of the Bible but not the \"christian universe\"? I guess most\nassume they perished in the flood (except for grendels mother :-).\n\nOr they just represent the godly line of seth intermarrying with the\ncainites.\n\n\"I am an impure thinker. I am hurt, swayed, shaken, |  paul           + | +\nelated, disillusioned, shocked, comforted, and I    |                 --|--\nhave to transmit my mental experiences lest I die.\" |                 + | +\n                     --  Eugen Rosenstock-Huessy    |  pduggan at world.std.com"
        }
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