# Digest urth.v005.n050 *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 20 Nov 1997* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Paul C Duggan *20 Nov 1997, 13:36* > From: "Tony Ellis" > Subject: Re: Dr. Talos' Play > > As we might expect from a play called "Eschatology and Genesis", this > is also a re-telling of the Genesis story. The Biblical Genesis story is > itself a re-telling of earlier Sumerian genesis stories, as I'm sure = > Wolfe > knows. There is even a throwaway reference to a Greek genesis myth: > in Greek mythology the survivors of the flood are told to repopulate the > world by throwing stones (the bones of Mother Earth) over their = > shoulders, > and in the play we have: > > MESCHIANE: It might come to life. I heard something once about > raising sons from stones. I had originally thought that that was a reference to Jesus words about being able to raise up stones as sons of abraham as a warning to those who trusted in their heritage to save them. I don't know if that fits the reference very well without looking. > The names Meschia and Meschiane... I have an idea that these are the > names of Adam and Eve in another (Hebrew?) genesis myth. Any ideas? I remember from the Urth Dictionary that they were from the (persian) Koran? > Nod, the giant, is one of the Nephilim. Go back to the Biblical Genesis > story and you'll find the Nephilim described as the offspring of angels > and the "Sons of God" - one of those little details which reminds us that > this story originated as Sumerian creation myth. Who were the Sons of > God? Nobody knows for sure, but they obviously have no place in the > conventional Christian universe. Huh? Part of the Bible but not the "christian universe"? I guess most assume they perished in the flood (except for grendels mother :-). Or they just represent the godly line of seth intermarrying with the cainites. "I am an impure thinker. I am hurt, swayed, shaken, | paul + | + elated, disillusioned, shocked, comforted, and I | --|-- have to transmit my mental experiences lest I die." | + | + -- Eugen Rosenstock-Huessy | pduggan at world.std.com ---