Old Stories The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 27 Apr 2001 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/2609 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Alex David Groce — 27 Apr 2001, 16:42 Hey, how hard should I try to track down "Try and Kill It." Nov. 96 Asimov's, someone recently compared this to "The Ziggurat*" and claimed it was Wolfe in Faulkner territory in conversation; a quick net search reveals it was preliminary Nebula balloted that year, but wasn't in _Strange Travelers_ or reprinted elsewhere. Anyone on the list read it and think it was top-flight Wolfe? The story "Copperhead" at sfsite is mildly interesting, but mostly strikes me as the kind of thing we usually get from Wolfe when he dips below novelette length. It might spark a few more Wolfe-misogyny debates. * which for me says "high quality work indeed," though as we've seen YMMV. -- "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Adam Stephanides — 28 Apr 2001, 10:32 follows, by subject match Alex David Groce > on 4/27/01 3:42 PM, Alex David Groce at Alex_Groce at gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu > wrote: > Hey, how hard should I try to track down "Try and Kill It." Nov. 96 > Asimov's, someone recently compared this to "The Ziggurat*" and > claimed it was Wolfe in Faulkner territory in conversation; a quick > net search reveals it was preliminary Nebula balloted that year, but > wasn't in _Strange Travelers_ or reprinted elsewhere. Anyone on the > list read it and think it was top-flight Wolfe? You post inspired me to reread the story. While I liked it better the second time, I wouldn't call it top-flight Wolfe. I didn't much care for "The Ziggurat," actually, but "Try and Kill It" is much shorter (nineteen pages) and less thematically rich as far as I can tell. The protagonist is one of Wolfe's capable, manly men, which is probably my least favorite Wolfean type, although he's probably the most tolerable example of this type I've read. (If you are morally opposed to hunting, you probably won't like this story.) As far as Faulkner goes, it's not like any Faulkner I've read, which doesn't include the short stories; I suspect the perceived resemblance lies in the fact that it's about a man hunting an extraordinary bear. Wolfe's style is very good, but if there's more to the story than a well-written adventure story, I don't see it. Incidentally, the issue in which "Try and Kill It" appeared has other items of interest besides Wolfe, most notably a novella by Gardner Dozois and Michael Swanwick. The bulk of it was written by Dozois (in the 60s), and my memory is that it's very good. It also contains Bruce Sterling's "Bicycle Repairman, and a Nancy Kress novelette, if you're a Kress fan. --Adam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------