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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/2628",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 2628,
    "subject": "Spoilers for copperhead",
    "messages": 5,
    "voices": 3,
    "first": "2001-05-07T12:13:44+00:00",
    "last": "2001-05-08T16:09:04+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0383@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Paul C Duggan",
        "address": "pduggan at world.std.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-05-07T12:13:44+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Spoilers for copperhead",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "3. The dialect gets impenetrable at the worst possible moment\n   - what do \"groose\" and \"grawnt\" mean?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Here's my translation:\n\n\"Was a grouse\"\n\t(no that doesn't make sense)\n\"not like you. I say, you will not ever grunt over me again\"\n        (reference to the president's sexual relation with copperhead?)\n\"those boys, the one kills the other. I do nothing\"\n\t(cain and abel reference? why?)\n\nWhat's with the barking trees and winding ram's horns?\n\nPaul"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0384@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Paul C Duggan",
        "address": "pduggan at world.std.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-05-07T12:13:44+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Spoilers for copperhead",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0030-0383@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "3. The dialect gets impenetrable at the worst possible moment\n   - what do \"groose\" and \"grawnt\" mean?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Here's my translation:\n\n\"Was a grouse\"\n\t(no that doesn't make sense)\n\"not like you. I say, you will not ever grunt over me again\"\n        (reference to the president's sexual relation with copperhead?)\n\"those boys, the one kills the other. I do nothing\"\n\t(cain and abel reference? why?)\n\nWhat's with the barking trees and winding ram's horns?\n\nPaul"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0385@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alex David Groce",
        "address": "alex_groce at gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu"
      },
      "date": "2001-05-07T12:37:04+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Spoilers for copperhead",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0030-0384@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "text": "Paul wrote:\nWhat's with the barking trees and winding ram's horns?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I assume that's just Wolfe's way of saying \"he's a in a very weird\ncognate of our reality.\""
        },
        {
          "kind": "sig",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "\"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.\" John 8:32\n--\nAlex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu)\nPh.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department\n8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066\nhttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0387@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "John-Paul Wellcoat",
        "address": "john-paul.wellcoat at omgroup.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-05-08T16:09:04+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Spoilers for copperhead",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0030-0385@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "I reckon:"
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          "kind": "quote",
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          "text": "\"Vhas a groose.\"\n\"Was a Gross\" - with reference to there first sexual encounter or her initial\nemergence on earth\n\n\"Nawt lak 'ou. Aw zay, 'ou vhill nawt neffer grawnt offer mee agan.\"\n\"Not like you. I say, you will not never[?] grunt[?] over me again.\""
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "i Pretty much agree with this.\nShe no longer likes him, and is saying he will not get the opportunity to\ncopulate with her again.\n\nThe impression is she has a very child like mentality and is trying to hurt the\npresident\nbefore he relegates her back to her previous existence (or another)"
        },
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          "kind": "quote",
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          "text": "\"Dhoss bhoyes, de vhun keels de odder. Aw douh nawthing.\"\n\"Those boys, the one kills the other. I do nothing.\"president,"
        },
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          "text": "Have no idea what this is in reference to. I like the idea of Caine and Abel,\nbut there is nothing to corroberate this idea.\n\nBased on the opinion that she is an incarnation of Eve and the serpent , I was\nof the opinion that the President became Adam in the other\nrealm.\nIf Caine and Abel is right then this is after the original sin, and Adam or\n(God) has just found Eve or the serpent guilty of yet another act of\nsin.\n\nJP\n\nand that she doesn't like him, and he will no longer\n\n\n|--------+----------------------->\n|        |          Paul C Duggan|\n|        |          <pduggan@worl|\n|        |          d.std.com>   |\n|        |                       |\n|        |          07/05/01     |\n|        |          17:13        |\n|        |          Please       |\n|        |          respond to   |\n|        |          urth         |\n|        |                       |\n|--------+----------------------->"
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          "text": "----------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n  |                                                                            |\n  |       To:     urth at lists1.ba.best.com                                      |\n  |       cc:     (bcc: John-Paul Wellcoat/OMT/OMGROUP)                        |\n  |       Subject:     (urth) Spoilers for copperhead                          |\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------|"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "3. The dialect gets impenetrable at the worst possible moment\n   - what do \"groose\" and \"grawnt\" mean?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Here's my translation:\n\n\"Was a grouse\"\n           (no that doesn't make sense)\n\"not like you. I say, you will not ever grunt over me again\"\n        (reference to the president's sexual relation with copperhead?)\n\"those boys, the one kills the other. I do nothing\"\n           (cain and abel reference? why?)\n\nWhat's with the barking trees and winding ram's horns?\n\nPaul"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0388@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "John-Paul Wellcoat",
        "address": "john-paul.wellcoat at omgroup.com"
      },
      "date": "2001-05-08T16:09:04+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Spoilers for copperhead",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0030-0387@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "text": "I reckon:"
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          "kind": "quote",
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          "text": "\"Vhas a groose.\"\n\"Was a Gross\" - with reference to there first sexual encounter or her initial\nemergence on earth\n\n\"Nawt lak 'ou. Aw zay, 'ou vhill nawt neffer grawnt offer mee agan.\"\n\"Not like you. I say, you will not never[?] grunt[?] over me again.\""
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "i Pretty much agree with this.\nShe no longer likes him, and is saying he will not get the opportunity to\ncopulate with her again.\n\nThe impression is she has a very child like mentality and is trying to hurt the\npresident\nbefore he relegates her back to her previous existence (or another)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "\"Dhoss bhoyes, de vhun keels de odder. Aw douh nawthing.\"\n\"Those boys, the one kills the other. I do nothing.\"president,"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Have no idea what this is in reference to. I like the idea of Caine and Abel,\nbut there is nothing to corroberate this idea.\n\nBased on the opinion that she is an incarnation of Eve and the serpent , I was\nof the opinion that the President became Adam in the other\nrealm.\nIf Caine and Abel is right then this is after the original sin, and Adam or\n(God) has just found Eve or the serpent guilty of yet another act of\nsin.\n\nJP\n\nand that she doesn't like him, and he will no longer\n\n\n|--------+----------------------->\n|        |          Paul C Duggan|\n|        |          <pduggan@worl|\n|        |          d.std.com>   |\n|        |                       |\n|        |          07/05/01     |\n|        |          17:13        |\n|        |          Please       |\n|        |          respond to   |\n|        |          urth         |\n|        |                       |\n|--------+----------------------->"
        },
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          "kind": "quote",
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          "text": "----------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n  |                                                                            |\n  |       To:     urth at lists1.ba.best.com                                      |\n  |       cc:     (bcc: John-Paul Wellcoat/OMT/OMGROUP)                        |\n  |       Subject:     (urth) Spoilers for copperhead                          |\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------|"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "3. The dialect gets impenetrable at the worst possible moment\n   - what do \"groose\" and \"grawnt\" mean?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Here's my translation:\n\n\"Was a grouse\"\n           (no that doesn't make sense)\n\"not like you. I say, you will not ever grunt over me again\"\n        (reference to the president's sexual relation with copperhead?)\n\"those boys, the one kills the other. I do nothing\"\n           (cain and abel reference? why?)\n\nWhat's with the barking trees and winding ram's horns?\n\nPaul"
        }
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