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  "thread": {
    "id": 2652,
    "subject": "Digest urth.v030.n115",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2001-05-19T11:35:54+00:00",
    "last": "2001-05-19T11:35:54+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0426@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "akt at attglobal.net"
      },
      "date": "2001-05-19T11:35:54+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Digest urth.v030.n115",
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "From Rostrum:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "On Thu, 17 May 2001, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 3,
          "text": "Do we get a replay of the Eden story, the same way we got a\nSecond Flood in the Urth Cycle? Does that make sense, from a\nChristian point of view?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "I think a good analogy here is to the Narnia books -- it isn't\na \"replay,\" but, if God made multiple worlds, how things might\nplay themselves out, differently but according to the old\npatterns, in those worlds. Like those, I don't think Wolfe\nwrites to be taken allegorically, but perhaps symbolically."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Better yet, Lewis's Perelandra, in which a human from Earth becomes\nthe\nagent of evil attempting to orchestrate a second fall on the Edenic\nVenus.\n\nI like the idea that, disasterous as Lilith is running amok in our\nworld,\nthe NP, a fallen human, would be a worse threat to unfallen Eden."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "(But it"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "only works if Lilith is not talking about Cain and Abel after all.)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I'm not interested enough in this story to get into this discussion\nexcept to note periphirally that Philip Pullman (in whom I *am*\ninterested, at the moment), is playing around with these notions in his\nDark Materials trilogy. Noted only to alert list-members to Pullman.\n\n-alga"
        }
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