{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/2691", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 2691, "subject": "Gormenghast", "messages": 9, "voices": 7, "first": "2001-06-24T11:33:54+00:00", "last": "2001-07-09T09:09:48+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Alice Turner", "address": "akt at attglobal.net" }, "date": "2001-06-24T11:33:54+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Gormenghast", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Any plans, among the US contingent at least, to watch the PBS\ntwo-parter? Here in NY it's being aired Wed. and Thu., and I've actually\nwritten it into my calendar. (I watch little TV and go out quite a bit,\nso this is more remarkable than it sounds.)\n\n-alga" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Joshua A. Solomon", "address": "j.a.solomon at city.ac.uk" }, "date": "2001-06-25T08:49:48+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Re: Gormenghast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "To derive any enjoyment from this, alga, you will need to lower your\nexpectations." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: \"Alice Turner\" \nSubject: Gormenghast\nDate: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:33:54 -0400\nMIME-Version: 1.0\nContent-Type: text/plain;\ncharset=\"Windows-1252\"\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\nReferences: <200106232010.f5NKA1792615 at lists1.ba.best.com>\n\nAny plans, among the US contingent at least, to watch the PBS\ntwo-parter? Here in NY it's being aired Wed. and Thu., and I've actually\nwritten it into my calendar. (I watch little TV and go out quite a bit,\nso this is more remarkable than it sounds.)" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "John-Paul Wellcoat", "address": "john-paul.wellcoat at omgroup.com" }, "date": "2001-06-25T09:30:18+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Re: Gormenghast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "You will have to do more than lower your expectations to enjoy this, you will\nhave to ensure you have no expectations. Then just maybe you may see some light.\nI can't imagine how the director was inspired to make Gormenghast so vibrant and\ncolouful.\nDon't stay in, I suggest setting the video.\nJP\n\n\n\n|--------+------------------------>\n| | \"Joshua A. |\n| | Solomon\" |\n| | |\n| | |\n| | 25/06/01 09:49|\n| | Please respond|\n| | to urth |\n| | |\n|--------+------------------------>" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "----------------------------------------------------------------------------|\n | |\n | To: urth at lists1.ba.best.com |\n | cc: (bcc: John-Paul Wellcoat/OMT/OMGROUP) |\n | Subject: (urth) Re: Gormenghast |\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------|" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "To derive any enjoyment from this, alga, you will need to lower your\nexpectations." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: \"Alice Turner\" \nSubject: Gormenghast\nDate: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:33:54 -0400\nMIME-Version: 1.0\nContent-Type: text/plain;\ncharset=\"Windows-1252\"\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\nReferences: <200106232010.f5NKA1792615 at lists1.ba.best.com>\n\nAny plans, among the US contingent at least, to watch the PBS\ntwo-parter? Here in NY it's being aired Wed. and Thu., and I've actually\nwritten it into my calendar. (I watch little TV and go out quite a bit,\nso this is more remarkable than it sounds.)" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Spectacled Bear", "address": "spectacled.bear at pobox.com" }, "date": "2001-06-25T10:39:36+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Re: Gormenghast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "At 10:30 2001-06-25, John-Paul Wellcoat wrote:\nYou will have to do more than lower your expectations to enjoy this, you will\nhave to ensure you have no expectations. Then just maybe you may see some light.\nI can't imagine how the director was inspired to make Gormenghast so vibrant and\ncolouful." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "If it's the one that was on the BBC last year, the inspiration\ncomes from Peake's paintings and his time in China. His daughter\nwas quoted as saying it all looked just right.\n\nIf you do set the video, don't lose the tape.\n\nSpectacled Bear.\n\n(still hoping to find it one day...)" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Alice Turner", "address": "pei047 at attglobal.net" }, "date": "2001-06-26T02:38:35+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Gormenghast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "J.A. Solomon says:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "You will have to do more than lower your expectations to enjoy this,\nyou will\nhave to ensure you have no expectations. Then just maybe you may see\nsome light.\nI can't imagine how the director was inspired to make Gormenghast so\nvibrant and\ncolouful.\nDon't stay in, I suggest setting the video." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "But the Bear says:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "If it's the one that was on the BBC last year, the inspiration\ncomes from Peake's paintings and his time in China. His daughter\nwas quoted as saying it all looked just right.\n\nIf you do set the video, don't lose the tape." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "And Dan'l says:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I don't know about PBS, but if this is the British series of a\ncouple years ago, see it. Modulo some simplification, they got\nthe plot of the first two books right (they only do the first\ntwo), the look is good, and several of the characters are\ndownright eerie, notably Swelter and Flay." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "So I'm going to watch it. Bear, I am an idiot about recording, but will\ntry.\n\n-alga" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Endy9", "address": "endymion91 at home.com" }, "date": "2001-06-27T02:35:30+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Re: Gormenghast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Alga,\nThanks for the heads up as I would have missed this otherwise. I'm unfamiliar with Gormenghast, but it looks fairly wierd and strange and I can't resist stories like that (smile).\n\n\nDennis/Endy\nhttp://members.home.net/endymion91/index.htm" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Joshua A. Solomon", "address": "j.a.solomon at city.ac.uk" }, "date": "2001-06-28T11:24:26+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Re: Gormenghast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I hadn't imagined that my negative opinion of the show would be as\ncontroversial as it turned out to be. Here's another of my opinions. I don't\nthink it's controversial, but here goes: Titus Groan and Gormenghast (i.e.\nthe books on which the show is based), are classics and everyone on this\nlist would enjoy them immensely.\n\nbee" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: \"Endy9\" \nDate: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 02:35:30 -0500\n\nAlga,\nThanks for the heads up as I would have missed this otherwise. I'm\nunfamiliar with Gormenghast, but it looks fairly wierd and strange and I\ncan't resist stories like that (smile)." } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Endy9", "address": "endymion91 at home.com" }, "date": "2001-07-02T05:21:09+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Re:Gormenghast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "alga,\nI finally attempted to watch this last night. I could tolerate about an\nhour. I fastforwarded through the remaining three hours this morning in an\nattempt to satisfy my \"what happens in the end\" curiosity.\n\nThe visuals were enjoyable for about the first hour. Loved the colors and\nbackgrounds but that can't sustain a film for me for longer than an hour. I\nowe my wife now for encouraging her to watch it with me . But at\nleast now maybe Dr. Who won't seem so bad to her.\n\nDennis/Endy\nhttp://members.home.net/endymion91/index.htm" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "E Dorian", "address": "edorian at hotmail.com" }, "date": "2001-07-09T09:09:48+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Gormenghast", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "This video was shown at Readercon a year ago. I knew nothing about \nGormenghast, but decided to check it out, and thought it was excellent.\n\nI find that most movies based on books are horrible, and that the screen \nwriters need to show some creativity and write their OWN stories, instead of \nshredding the written stories we love. When I finally read the Gormenghast \nbooks, will this film fall into the same disappointing group of films as, \nsay, Starship Troopers?\n\nBTW, The Part One of Gormenghast was on last night, and I taped it. Part \nTwo is on tonight!\n\nDarryl" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "From: \"Alice Turner\" \nReply-To: urth at lists.best.com\nTo: urth at lists1.ba.best.com\nSubject: (urth) Gormenghast\nDate: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:33:54 -0400\n\nAny plans, among the US contingent at least, to watch the PBS\ntwo-parter? Here in NY it's being aired Wed. and Thu., and I've actually\nwritten it into my calendar. (I watch little TV and go out quite a bit,\nso this is more remarkable than it sounds.)\n\n-alga" } ] } ] }