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  "thread": {
    "id": 277,
    "subject": "Divine Week",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "1997-12-02T10:55:27+00:00",
    "last": "1997-12-02T10:55:27+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0006-0415@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Tony Ellis",
        "address": "tellis at futurenet.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "1997-12-02T10:55:27+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Divine Week",
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      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "                                                                      02/12/97\n                                                                      11:41\n RE>Divine Week"
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Mantis wrote:\n[A lot of Scene I is pre-echoed by events in the Botanical Gardens of\nNessus involving Severian, Dorcas, Agia, Hildegrin; "
        },
        {
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          "text": "Blimey, so it is! Even down to the sabre-tooth moggy. Most observant\nof you."
        },
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "=Scenes as Days of [Divine] Week=\nSCENE DAY         PLANET\nI.....Monday......Moon--Jahi as Moon [now I think Meschiane is Moon]\nII....Tuesday.....Mars--appearance of soldiers\nIII...Wednesday...Mercury--underworld and prophets\nIV....Thursday....Jupiter\nV.....Friday......Venus [this is Jahi, I'm thinking]\nVI....Saturday....Saturn--autarch usurped [unrecognized in his own\npalace]\nVII...Sunday......Sun--arrival of New Sun"
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          "text": "My problem with inventive extrapolations like this: if you look for\npatterns you will always find them. \n\nUnless I'm missing something (it wouldn't be the first time), the \nassociations you make between characters and days seem \npretty arbitrary. Why not assign the first scene to Nod, or \nMeschia, or Gabriel, who also appear in it? Why doesn't the \nFamiliar get to be represented by a planet? Or the Contessa? Why\nis Thursday Jupiter? Why is Friday Jahi's day, and not another?\n\nYou say that Meschiane is Moon, making the first scene Monday,\nbut you also say that \"Valeria is Moon to Severian's New Sun\". I\nthink you have something with this latter point, I like the idea of \nValerian's lunar reign being eclipsed by the New Sun, but in \nthat case surely Autarch = Moon?\n\nIt seems to me that I could just as plausibly prove that the 7 \nscenes equate to the 7 Deadly Sins (Jahi = Lust, Autarch =\nEnvy, Nod = Sloth etc), or the 7 Dwarfs (Meschiane =\nBashful, Statue = Grumpy etc). Or maybe there are ten scenes\nand they equate to the Ten Commandments? (Jahi + Meschia =\nadultery, Meschia and Meschiane = honour thy father and \nmother, etc) <g>"
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