{
  "export": {
    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/2812",
    "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it.  Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.",
    "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'"
  },
  "archive": "urth",
  "thread": {
    "id": 2812,
    "subject": "Digest urth.v030.n173",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2001-08-27T20:41:02+00:00",
    "last": "2001-08-27T20:41:02+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0030-0677@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Richard Horton",
        "address": "rrhorton at prodigy.net"
      },
      "date": "2001-08-27T20:41:02+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Re: Digest urth.v030.n173",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:\n\nDo any list members live in or know the greater Chicago area well?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Me."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I grew up in Naperville, the next town closer to Chicago than Aurora."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Holly states that Barton is \"a town of about 10,000\". Is that the size of\nthe real Barrington?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Sounds right."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "And I'll note that Barrington Hills was indeed famous as a town where\nrich people lived -- the Chicago Sun-Times used long ago to do a\nyearly list of the communities in the Chicago area ranked by some\nmetric which defined affluence (a combination of average home price\nand average salary and stuff like that), and Barrington Hills was\nfirst on that list some of the time."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "She also says that it's \"65 miles by car from the Loop.\"\nIs that\nthe real distance from Barrington to the city centre? It doesn't look that\nfar on my map - it looks more like 30 miles."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Barrington is about 30 miles from the Loop. All suburbanites use this\nmetric."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Right.  65 miles is getting pretty far out."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "And, for the record, why is\nthat area of central Chicago called \"The Loop\"?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "It's encircled by The El. Don't ask me to define The El, for God's sake! :-)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "It's a loop of elevated (hence, The El) train tracks which surrounds a\nsection of downtown Chicago.  The same train tracks are also a subway\nfor a while."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Could she in real life have made the journey to Aurora by getting a train\ninto Chicago and then a Greyhound Bus out to Aurora?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Probably the only way to do it without a car."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Actually, the Burlington Northern runs from Downtown through\nNaperville to Aurora, so I don't really think you'd want to take a bus\n-- just switch trains."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "How long would it have\ntaken her?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Several hours."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "The train route might take 2 or 3 or 4, depending when, Express vs.\nLocal, stuff like that.  (My memories of how long the trips into the\ncity, then up to Wrigley Field, used to take have faded.)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "sig",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Rich Horton | Stable Email: mailto://richard.horton at sff.net\nHome Page: http://www.sff.net/people/richard.horton\nAlso visit SF Site (http://www.sfsite.com) and Tangent Online (http://www.tangentonline.com)"
        }
      ]
    }
  ]
}