# [fictionmags] early alternate histories *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 02 Feb 2002* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Andy Robertson *02 Feb 2002, 16:02* and yet earlier ones . . . hartshorn ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean-Marc LofficierTo: > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 4:41 PM > Subject: Re: [fictionmags] early alternate histories > I was about to mention these two... The first one is terrific. > > JM > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <> To: > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 8:28 AM > Subject: [fictionmags] early alternate histories >> Dear All, Two alternate histories earlier than any mentioned so far: >> >> Louis Geoffroy, Napolon apocryphe, 1812-1832: Histoire de >> la conqute du monde et de la monarchie universelle (Paris: >> Tallandier, 1983). Originally published in 1836. Napoleon is not >> defeated. >> >> Charles Renouvier, Uchronie (L'utopie dans l'histoire), >> esquisse historique apocryphe du dveloppement de la civilisation >> europenne, tel qu'il n'a pas t, tel qu'il aurait pu tre (Paris: >> Fayard, 1988). Originally published in 1876. The Roman >> Empire does not adopt Christianity. >> >> Gary Westfahl ---