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  "thread": {
    "id": 2912,
    "subject": "government / weird science",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2002-02-02T22:16:29+00:00",
    "last": "2002-02-04T12:38:22+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0202-57@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "maa32",
        "address": "maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu"
      },
      "date": "2002-02-02T22:16:29+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) government / weird science",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "This is a pretty interesting debate on rebellion and government in the \nAutarchy.  People seem to be getting a little heated about it now.  Just keep \nin mind that a \"just\" fascist system might not be so bad for some people. \nInstead of pulling people down to the lowest common denominator, it allows the \nrigid and stratified class identities that Wolfe loves so much to thrive and \nbe enforced with impunity (as we've clearly seen in that Tolkien essay).  Then \nwe have Malrubius' little lesson in which loyalty to the person of the supreme \nmonarch is obviously based on love and devotion, whereas loyalty to the group \nleads to a loss of individuality and devalues love and respect - in Malrubius' \npresentation of the forms of government, you don't need to respect ANYONE if \neveryone is equal ... besides, all the best modernist poets were fascists.  \nOf course, none of this has anything to do with MY politics.  I really \nprobably shouldn't even send this.  Oh well.\n\nSpeaking of Lamarck, recent research has shown that some hormones in the \nmother's womb can affect the development of the brain in male children and \nincrease their homosexual proclivities - and this hormone level alters \ndepending upon how many children the mother has previously had, therefore her \nbehavior directly affects expression in her children within one generation - \nand it affects phenotype: the pointer finger and ring finger of children \naffected by this increased hormone level will be approximately the same \nlength, whereas those exposed to lower levels will have greater variation in \nfinger length.  Pretty odd, huh?\n\nOh, for Rostrum: perhaps someday you will buy my tree hybridization and my \nblue/ushas theory - it doesn't matter to me, but the next time you read the \nentire text, pay attention to the trees.  They pop up EVERYWHERE, but they are \neasy to miss if you aren't watching our for them.\n\nMarc Aramini"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0202-66@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "matthew.malthouse",
        "address": "matthew.malthouse at guardian.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "2002-02-04T12:38:22+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) government / weird science",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0202-57@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "text": "On 02/02/2002 22:16:29 maa32 wrote:\nSpeaking of Lamarck, recent research has shown that some hormones in the\nmother's womb can affect the development of the brain in male children and\nincrease their homosexual proclivities - and this hormone level alters\ndepending upon how many children the mother has previously had, therefore her\nbehavior directly affects expression in her children within one generation -\nand it affects phenotype: the pointer finger and ring finger of children\naffected by this increased hormone level will be approximately the same\nlength, whereas those exposed to lower levels will have greater variation in\nfinger length.  Pretty odd, huh?"
        },
        {
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Do you have referebces please?\n\n\nMatthew"
        }
      ]
    }
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