# government / weird science *The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 02 Feb 2002* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### maa32 *02 Feb 2002, 22:16* This is a pretty interesting debate on rebellion and government in the Autarchy. People seem to be getting a little heated about it now. Just keep in mind that a "just" fascist system might not be so bad for some people. Instead of pulling people down to the lowest common denominator, it allows the rigid and stratified class identities that Wolfe loves so much to thrive and be enforced with impunity (as we've clearly seen in that Tolkien essay). Then we have Malrubius' little lesson in which loyalty to the person of the supreme monarch is obviously based on love and devotion, whereas loyalty to the group leads to a loss of individuality and devalues love and respect - in Malrubius' presentation of the forms of government, you don't need to respect ANYONE if everyone is equal ... besides, all the best modernist poets were fascists. Of course, none of this has anything to do with MY politics. I really probably shouldn't even send this. Oh well. Speaking of Lamarck, recent research has shown that some hormones in the mother's womb can affect the development of the brain in male children and increase their homosexual proclivities - and this hormone level alters depending upon how many children the mother has previously had, therefore her behavior directly affects expression in her children within one generation - and it affects phenotype: the pointer finger and ring finger of children affected by this increased hormone level will be approximately the same length, whereas those exposed to lower levels will have greater variation in finger length. Pretty odd, huh? Oh, for Rostrum: perhaps someday you will buy my tree hybridization and my blue/ushas theory - it doesn't matter to me, but the next time you read the entire text, pay attention to the trees. They pop up EVERYWHERE, but they are easy to miss if you aren't watching our for them. Marc Aramini --- ### matthew.malthouse *04 Feb 2002, 12:38 · follows maa32* > On 02/02/2002 22:16:29 maa32 wrote: > Speaking of Lamarck, recent research has shown that some hormones in the > mother's womb can affect the development of the brain in male children and > increase their homosexual proclivities - and this hormone level alters > depending upon how many children the mother has previously had, therefore her > behavior directly affects expression in her children within one generation - > and it affects phenotype: the pointer finger and ring finger of children > affected by this increased hormone level will be approximately the same > length, whereas those exposed to lower levels will have greater variation in > finger length. Pretty odd, huh? Do you have referebces please? Matthew ---