For Joe: more nasty puns
The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 03 Feb 2002
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maa32 — 03 Feb 2002, 18:42

Hey Joe.  If you wanted another Fruedian association in Wolfe, then the name 
of the narrator Horn offers a few.  I'm sure we've discussed the Shakespearian 
connotation of horns and cuckholdry, and the Horn as male genitals from 
"Hornbus, you whore" of Nightside the long sun (which, I believe, if you will 
forgive my crudity, invokes fellatio).  Here is one more that might be just 
coincidental: Horn falls in that big pit on the island.  If you buy my theory 
that this recreates the vanished people by hybridizing man and tree, then Horn 
acts as an impregnating phallus "lost in the big woods".  Unlike naming the 
taverns "the cock" and "the bush", I am not willing to say that this Horn in a 
pit is intentional on Wolfe's part.  I just recall being traumatized by the 
description of Jolenta's private parts as an unhatched chick or something in 
The Claw of the Conciliator in the fifth grade or so.  That's a pretty scary 
description to a young boy. And then there is that whole iron dingus scene in 
the Claw that always catches me by surprise.
Please forgive the crudity of this post.
Marc Aramini

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James Jordan — 04 Feb 2002, 01:03
  follows, by subject match maa32

The horn falling into the pit may be righter than you realize. AS I recall, 
in "A Story by John Marsch" in 5th Head, there is some description of two 
large stones and a bush that have something to do with procreation. This is 
way back in my mind. Some 5th Head expert needs to clarify my memory for 
us. Anyway, it seems that Wolfe does use geography this way.

Nutria

> At 12:42 PM 2/3/2002, you wrote:
> Hey Joe.  If you wanted another Fruedian association in Wolfe, then the name
> of the narrator Horn offers a few.  I'm sure we've discussed the 
> Shakespearian
> connotation of horns and cuckholdry, and the Horn as male genitals from
> "Hornbus, you whore" of Nightside the long sun (which, I believe, if you will
> forgive my crudity, invokes fellatio).  Here is one more that might be just
> coincidental: Horn falls in that big pit on the island.  If you buy my theory
> that this recreates the vanished people by hybridizing man and tree, then 
> Horn
> acts as an impregnating phallus "lost in the big woods".  Unlike naming the
> taverns "the cock" and "the bush", I am not willing to say that this Horn 
> in a
> pit is intentional on Wolfe's part.  I just recall being traumatized by the
> description of Jolenta's private parts as an unhatched chick or something in
> The Claw of the Conciliator in the fifth grade or so.  That's a pretty scary
> description to a young boy. And then there is that whole iron dingus scene in
> the Claw that always catches me by surprise.
> Please forgive the crudity of this post.
> Marc Aramini
> 
> 
> 
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