# For Joe, first reading of TBOTNS *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 05 Feb 2002* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### maa32 *05 Feb 2002, 13:58* Hey Joe, you said you first read the book in 1988? I think I read it in '89. My father used to work at an Air Force Base Commisary as the Head Bagger, and his #2 man was a big sci-fi fan who would give me his books when he was through with them. I think he was part of the science fiction book club, because he eventually gave me the hardback of Claw of the Conciliator. I found Shadow at a second hand store. I used to read everything, and I mostly got what was going on, but I remember being immensely upset and disappointed by the ending of Citadel. At the time I was really into Zelazny's books. It was years before I read Urth of the New Sun, and by then I had run across an essay that said Dorcas was Sev's grandmother, probably in Clute's encyclopedia, and I had read the book a couple more times to see what else I had missed. How were you introduced to the books? Forgot to answer you last night. Sorry. Marc Aramini ---