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  "thread": {
    "id": 2933,
    "subject": "hyacinth flower",
    "messages": 1,
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    "first": "2002-02-07T04:40:24+00:00",
    "last": "2002-02-07T04:40:24+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<urth-v0202-97@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "maa32",
        "address": "maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu"
      },
      "date": "2002-02-07T04:40:24+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) hyacinth flower",
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          "text": "Hey, has anybody interpreted that passage at the end of Return to the Whorl \nfrom the chrasmologic writings which talks about the trampled Hyacinth \nblooming beneath the shepherd's heel in detail? I was just thinking how nicely \nthe story of Hyacinthus and the quotation fits in with my \"people recombine \nwith plants\" theory. Perhaps the greatest hope for the human race is to become \nthese vegetative men.  Hyacinth, or whatever s/he represents, blooms as a \nflower.  Perhaps these recombinations offer some hope for destitute humanity, \ncrushed under the tyranny of wicked men.  It seems to me that the passage \naptly states that a definite hope for a return from doom lies in the \ntransformation to ever-blooming flora.  In which case the statement that \"Horn \nhas not failed us\" gains new meaning: not only did he bring back Silk, he \nsaved (and ultimately transformed) the human race from its own wickedness by \ngranting the Vanished People the right to return.  Yet the oracle with Olivine \nseemed negative about the whole thing, with double darkness veiling the sky of \nBlue and the imminent return of Pas ... how would the flower-children deal \nwith Father Pas? I'm just not sure that my hypothesized hybridization is good \nin the long run ... what appeared to be so straightforward about this book \n(it's moral message) might not even be that clear ... Silk can't redeem a \nhumanity that doesn't want to be redeemed ... can carnivorous trees create a \nnew humanity worthy of being saved? ... or will the hybrids be worse?  It \nwould seem that they would be better for one generation, from the discussion \nof hybrids in chapter 1 of On Blue's Waters ... but their children ... hmmm. I \njust thought that final passage of the writings put an interesting spin on the \ntransmutation of man into plant. bwa ha ha. (And no one can deny that the \npassage in question is somehow of ultimate importance).\nMarc Aramini"
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