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  "thread": {
    "id": 2959,
    "subject": "random stuff",
    "messages": 1,
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    "first": "2002-02-12T22:46:49+00:00",
    "last": "2002-02-12T22:46:49+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0202-154@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "maa32",
        "address": "maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu"
      },
      "date": "2002-02-12T22:46:49+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) random stuff",
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          "text": "I was in error in attributing the Lysistrata to Euripedes: of course \nAristophanes wrote it, right?\n\nAlso, another big parallel with Eco's book and TBOTNS is the deluge: the man \nshipwrecked on a ship waits for a really big flood to come, with some \nsaving/redeeming qualities.\n\nAlso, it seems to me that the recent idea of the Claw as some kind of \nantithesis to the Ring might not fully consider the fact that the power of the \nclaw actually stems from Severian: as one who has come closer and closer to \nthe fabric of time, he can reverse time and bring the departed back to life, \nand I don't think that power lies in the Claw; Severian just uses it as a \nfocus and an excuse.  If the Claw has any powers, it is only from the future  \nSeverian, (the eidolon directly preceding the narrator of Urth of the New \nSun).  Most of the claw's powers can be explained by the reversal of time ... \nor a rip in the fabric of time ... but not that water to wine business at the \nbeginning of Claw.  That overt act has always made me consider Severian a bit \nmore like Christ than  any other ... even if Wolfe does maintain that Severian \nis just a man undergoing a Christian journey or something ... that particular \nmiracle doesn't match up with Severian as a servant who just happens to have \npower over time, and turns him into some kind of transmuter of nature.  In any \ncase, I always saw the Claw as some kind of signifier for the real power \ninside Severian, not an artifact in any real way ... I don't think it would \nwork for anyone else since it has no inherent powers except through its \nproximity to Severian, whereas the Ring could corrupt just about anybody -> \nand that scene with the sand on the beach at the end of Citadel of the Autarch \nmakes that explicit, doesn't it? I'm sure this is nothing new.\nMarc Aramini"
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