neighbors

maa3222 Feb 2002, 00:52original

Steve commented that the appearance of the neighbors was before the pit. This is incorrect. There are neighborly artifacts and holy places before that, but in the pit is the first time he meets the neighbors. They are created from his hybridized genes. All of these powers Horn gets after this are a result of sharing tree DNA. He was eaten there. And born again with new powers. And the neighbor he meets identifies himself as "Horn" and He Pen Ship calls Horn a neighbor. I've already commented on all of those features and his powers in previous posts in the last archive if you want to review them. The Pit is where it all happens, (and under a tree at the end of OBW). Notice that the island is completely composed of huge trees, as Horn realizes later. I won't repeat myself again; you are all familiar with my theories by now. If you want to find a more detailed explanation, just follow my threads through the last archive. Marc Aramini

Steve Strickland23 Feb 2002, 01:09original

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You're right. Sorry. That's what I get for talking off the top of my head (boy, I sure had the sequence wrong). By the way, Marc, I think you've had some great insights along the way, and one of these days I'm going to get a chance to sit down with my books and think about which of your theories I think have landed true. ----- Original Message -----

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From: "maa32" <maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu> To: <urth at urth.net> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:52 PM Subject: (urth) neighbors Steve commented that the appearance of the neighbors was before the pit.

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is incorrect. There are neighborly artifacts and holy places before that, but in the pit is the first time he meets the neighbors. They are created from his hybridized genes. All of these powers Horn gets after this are a result of sharing tree DNA. He was eaten there. And born again with new powers. And the neighbor he meets identifies himself as "Horn" and He Pen Ship calls Horn a neighbor. I've already commented on all of those features and his powers in previous posts in the last archive if you want to review them.

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Pit is where it all happens, (and under a tree at the end of OBW). Notice that the island is completely composed of huge trees, as Horn realizes later. I won't repeat myself again; you are all familiar with my theories by now.

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you want to find a more detailed explanation, just follow my threads through the last archive. Marc Aramini --

William Ansley22 Feb 2002, 04:30original

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At 5:52 PM -0700 2/21/02, maa32 wrote: Steve commented that the appearance of the neighbors was before the pit. This is incorrect. There are neighborly artifacts and holy places before that, but in the pit is the first time he meets the neighbors. They are created from his hybridized genes. All of these powers Horn gets after this are a result of sharing tree DNA. He was eaten there. And born again with new powers. And the neighbor he meets identifies himself as "Horn" and He Pen Ship calls Horn a neighbor. I've already commented on all of those features and his powers in previous posts in the last archive if you want to review them. The Pit is where it all happens, (and under a tree at the end of OBW). Notice that the island is completely composed of huge trees, as Horn realizes later. I won't repeat myself again; you are all familiar with my theories by now. If you want to find a more detailed explanation, just follow my threads through the last archive. Marc Aramini

Marc, Yes, you have expressed your theories before and at considerable length. You are certainly positive enough about them, but I am not buying any of it at the moment. I definitely find the genetic aspects of your "plant-human hybrids" to be highly questionable. Of course, that doesn't mean anything in science fiction. In fact, the only thing that matters is whether what you express in your theories is what Wolfe had in mind. And, despite having read through the Short Sun series twice, I have no idea what Wolfe had in mind, so I can't criticize you on that account. But your theories don't help me to make any more sense out of the books, so they don't appeal to me either. If I can work up enough enthusiasm to re-read the SS series (which is doubtful) I will be keeping your ideas in mind, however.

William Ansley --

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