Green Man, Green/Lune The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 26 Feb 2002 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/2998 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Jerry Friedman — 26 Feb 2002, 20:35 > --- maa32 wrote: > I was just going to clarify a previous post, and I will stick to the New > Sun > books for this. I was positing that The Green Man and his continued > existence > represents "saved humanity"; In other words, since his sustenance is > received > primarily from the sun, he partakes of the symbolic substance of > Severian for > noursihment. This overturns the diabolical eucharist by which Severian > ascended the throne to temporal power. His spiritual body (ie- the > white hole > / new sun) feeds the saved people of the future. Thus, Green Men live > through > a type of eucharist; The New Sun becomes the bread of life. Those who > cannot > eat of that substance will certainly not survive as well as the green > man, > since their food supplies and available land have been depleted by the > flood. > What do you think of this interpretation of the green man? It is a type > of > eucharist that is spiritual and does not smack of necrophagia. > Marc Aramini This is one of my favorites of your ideas so far. I'd never made the connection that _Severian_ is feeding the Green Man. On the other hand--maybe I've missed it, but how do you and other believers in Blue=Ushas explain this passage from RTTW, Chapter 19? Hoof is narrating, speaking of "Father": "'Soon it will be evening,' he said. 'If we still haven't gone, we'll go up onto the roof of this house. Standing on the tiles I will point and you will peer until at last you see a certain dim red star. It's a long, long way from here. Think of it now, the sky like black velvet strewn with diamonds in the bottom of a grave, and among the diamonds a minute drop of blood. "There is a whorl circling that star, an ancient whorl. On that whorl, Juganu, there is an old city you have seen, and through it a river. Its waters are turbid and foul, and seem scarcely to move. You know that river; you have sailed on it...." Is Silkhorn simply mistaken when he uses the present tense and says the Red Sun is visible at night as a dim red star? Jerry Friedman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------