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  "thread": {
    "id": 3060,
    "subject": "rationale for funky frogs and pedantic brush",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2002-03-21T05:33:01+00:00",
    "last": "2002-03-21T16:58:31+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0203-397@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "maa32",
        "address": "maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu"
      },
      "date": "2002-03-21T05:33:01+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) rationale for funky frogs and pedantic brush",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Someone asked why I bothered with the trematode/frog thing.  Jerry previously \ncommented that he hadn't seen anything that indicated these polyploid froggies \nX. Leavis might have multiple limbs... but that article indicates that this is \na common mutation they experience.  Obviously it has nothing (or little) to do \nwith their polyploidy and more to do with their regenerative powers.  \nIf I wanted to be a real jackass I could say that the liana's are like \nTrematodes to the trees, stimulating extra limb growth with their cysty \npresence (remember that the pit Horn fell into was covered with vines).  \nHowever, I will do no such thing and just leave it as meaning nothing because \nthat is pushing the realms of credibility and rationality far beyond anything \nI am willing to do.  (Of course, that was a nice little rhetorical occupatio \nright there, wasn't it?)\n\nIncidentally, the first definition for \"Brush\" at merriam webster online is \n\"Brushwood\".  I am here going to imply that we use a test to see which of the \nfollowing relationships hold: leaf: brushwood: tree or leaf: scrubbing brush: \ntree\n Can't brushwood be rough and brown if it's dead?\nI shouldn't beat that to death.  I'll leave it alone.  I'm just saying that \nsimple words often have more than one definition ... and in this case the \ncontext just seems to insinuate foliage of somekind.  If you still want to \nargue about the word, then I will copy all of the dictionary definitions over. \nWe are both saying the same thing about new life to decayed things, I'm just \nsaying the new sun is granting a different kind of life rather than a \nresurrection. I guess there is no sense discussing it further - we are \"kind \nof\" saying the same thing.\nMarc"
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0203-401@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jerry Friedman",
        "address": "jerry_friedman at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-03-21T16:58:31+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) rationale for funky frogs and pedantic brush",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0203-397@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "--- maa32 <maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu> wrote:\nSomeone asked why I bothered with the trematode/frog thing.  Jerry\npreviously \ncommented that he hadn't seen anything that indicated these polyploid\nfroggies \nX. Leavis might have multiple limbs... but that article indicates that\nthis is \na common mutation they experience.  Obviously it has nothing (or little)\nto do \nwith their polyploidy and more to do with their regenerative powers."
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          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "Or with their process of development when it's interfered with.  The\narticle was interesting but I doubt very much that it has anything to\ndo with the Neighbors' or the hus's or felwolves' extra limbs. \n..."
        },
        {
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          "text": "We are both saying the same thing about new life to decayed things, I'm\njust \nsaying the new sun is granting a different kind of life rather than a \nresurrection. I guess there is no sense discussing it further - we are\n\"kind \nof\" saying the same thing.\nMarc"
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          "text": "And the brush is at least partly made of plant material (wood).\n\nA couple plant-animal ambiguities that I haven't seen mentioned yet:\nthe Claw that's a thorn, and the names Chenille and Marrow (the\nthe ambiguity of both names is explicitly pointed out, but not\ninterpreted by the Vironese characters as sexual ambiguity--I'll\nadmit to wondering, though, whether Chenille has XY chromosomes and\ntesticular feminization syndrome, which is consistent with her being\ntall and never having children).  Wolfe seems to like this plant-\nanimal theme--I'm almost tempted to call it a trope.\n\nJerry Friedman"
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