{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3066", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 3066, "subject": "Nacre glosses the hits", "messages": 3, "voices": 3, "first": "2002-03-21T22:03:07+00:00", "last": "2002-03-26T03:00:23+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi", "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com" }, "date": "2002-03-21T22:03:07+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Nacre glosses the hits", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Nacre wrote:\nThe Arimapsian Legacy CS\n\nThis is a typo; the title is \"The Arimaspian Legacy\"." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Is it? Dang! I was just cringing at the Ultan's Library typo (which may\nin fact be correct according to your title), so I double-checked against\n\"Urth Man Extraordinary\" (not \"Urth Man Extraordinare\"!) and they spell it\nlike I did. So another typo for Phil Stephensen-Payne to fix up!" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Lord of the Land Lovecraft's Legacy, BNH #2\n\nThere's another typo here--mantis means YBH #2." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "No, UME gives it as BEST NEW HORROR 2. Is that incorrect? Tell me, tell Phil." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Slow Children CS\n\nThe full title is \"Slow Children at Play\"." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Oops. That one is my fault." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "(Digression: The chapbooks aren't hard to find--they're\nall available from Cheap Street--but they're expensive,\naveraging over $50 each for pamphlets, and \"Empires\" is\nonly available in (a) very costly editions, again from\nCheap Street; (b) the practically unavailable _Crank!_\n#2; and (c) the _Best of Crank!_ anthology--easy enough\nto find, and reasonably priced, but it still means buying\na whole book for a single Wolfe story. If anyone knows\nof a small publisher who might be interested (mantis?), a\ndeal similar to the one that Cholfin must have worked out\nwith Cheap Street and Wolfe could perhaps be arranged, by\nwhich a more affordable volume collecting \"Empires\" and\nthe chapbook stories would be published.)" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "My understanding is that Bryan Cholfin =bought= the remaining copies of\nEF&F as pre-requisite to publishing the \"everyman\" edition. (Yeah, I know,\nI know: \"Think of it as an =investment=.\")\n\nThat was in, what, 1992?\n\nIt seems impossible these days to do any small press Wolfe book. The\nbarriers are real, and quite solid. I have tried, Nick Gevers has tried,\nthere must be others reading this who have tried. Such things have been\ndone in the past by Ziesing, Nesfa, and United Mythologies, but they\naren't doing them now. Then again, new small press folk are\nself-generating all the time, so it could happen. As much as I wish it\nwould, I really, really doubt it." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I'm very fond of \"The Monday Man\", which is one of the\nfirst-person character stories; it's set in the Depres-\nsion, and is about role reversal." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I thought this was the one where the policeman is telling the story and the\nrole-reversal was between . . . well, I don't want to give it away. But\nwhile it is set in mundane USA, it has a link to the Presence Chamber of\nUrth. IRRC, and I'm probably mixing it up something horrible.\n\n=mantis=" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Mark Millman", "address": "millman at heimdallr.dyndns.org" }, "date": "2002-03-21T23:15:32+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Nacre glosses the hits", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "mantis," }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, mantis (Michael\nAndre-Driussi) wrote:\nNacre wrote:" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "Lord of the Land Lovecraft's Legacy, BNH #2\n\nThere's another typo here--mantis means YBH #2." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "No, UME gives it as BEST NEW HORROR 2. Is that incor-\nrect? Tell me, tell Phil." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "This one's my mistake; since the key at the bottom of the\nlist has _Year's Best Horror_ and not _Best New Horror_,\nI just assumed BNH was a typo. On checking, _Best New\nHorror_ is correct. Sorry, mantis." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "My understanding is that Bryan Cholfin =bought= the re-\nmaining copies of EF&F as pre-requisite to publishing\nthe \"everyman\" edition. (Yeah, I know, I know: \"Think\nof it as an =investment=.\")\n\nThat was in, what, 1992?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Cheap Street, and their sister business, 20th Century\nFirst Editions, still list copies of _Empire_, so at the\nvery least, Cholfin's copies made it back into the sec-\nondary market. The same seems to be the case with _Bib-\nliomen_, too. (The least expensive versions, as far as I\ncan tell, are the studio samples from Cheap Street--both\ntitles are $85 a copy in that state.)" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "It seems impossible these days to do any small press\nWolfe book. The barriers are real, and quite solid.\nI have tried, Nick Gevers has tried, there must be\nothers reading this who have tried. Such things have\nbeen done in the past by Ziesing, Nesfa, and United\nMythologies, but they aren't doing them now. Then\nagain, new small press folk are self-generating all the\ntime, so it could happen. As much as I wish it would,\nI really, really doubt it." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I'm interested; what are those barriers? Please reply\noff-line if you think this is beyond the interest of the\nrest of the list." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 2, "text": "I'm very fond of \"The Monday\nMan\", which is one of the\nfirst-person character stories;\nit's set in the Depression, and\nis about role reversal." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I thought this was the one where the policeman is tell-\ning the story and the role-reversal was between . . .\nwell, I don't want to give it away. But while it is\nset in mundane USA, it has a link to the Presence Cham-\nber of Urth. IRRC, and I'm probably mixing it up some-\nthing horrible.\n\n=mantis=" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I don't remember any Urth reference in \"The Monday Man\",\nand I don't think that would have been sporting of Wolfe\nto have done. But we shouldn't get so worked up over it\nthat we try to string up one another.\n\nNacre" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Adam Stephanides", "address": "adamsteph at earthlink.net" }, "date": "2002-03-26T03:00:23+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Nacre glosses the hits", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "on 3/21/02 10:03 PM, Michael Andre-Driussi at mantis at siriusfiction.com\nwrote:\nIt seems impossible these days to do any small press Wolfe book. The\nbarriers are real, and quite solid. I have tried, Nick Gevers has tried,\nthere must be others reading this who have tried. Such things have been\ndone in the past by Ziesing, Nesfa, and United Mythologies, but they\naren't doing them now. Then again, new small press folk are\nself-generating all the time, so it could happen. As much as I wish it\nwould, I really, really doubt it." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "At one point there were four or five small presses publishing Lafferty's\nas-yet-unpublished works. Then, at about the same time (early 90s, I think)\nthey all stopped. There are still quite a few unpublished novels; hopefully\nthey'll see the light of day eventually.\n\n--Adam" } ] } ] }