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  "thread": {
    "id": 3092,
    "subject": "Green and Blue",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2002-03-26T07:48:39+00:00",
    "last": "2002-03-26T07:48:39+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0203-449@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Roy C. Lackey",
        "address": "rclackey at stic.net"
      },
      "date": "2002-03-26T07:48:39+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Green and Blue",
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          "text": "If the two mentions of the distance in leagues from Blue to Green, cited\nearlier, along with the perceived interval between them, have any meaning\nwrt to the cosmic dance being waltzed by the two bodies; that is, if Wolfe\nwasn't just throwing out arbitrary numbers, then they have to bear on the\nphysical relationship between the two bodies. If I am correct in my\ndeduction that Green is never nearer Blue than 105,000 miles, nor farther\nthan (roughly) 540,000 miles, then the two are locked in a macabre dance\ncalled to the tune of gravity. As I see it, there are three possibilities:\n1)Blue and Green circle each other, in the same orbit around the sun. 2)One\nbody is a satellite of the other, in the same orbit around the sun. 3)The\ntwo bodies are traveling together, linked by gravity, in the same (in\neffect) orbit around the sun.\n\nThere's no getting around it: if Green is never much more than half a\nmillion miles from Blue, then they are in the same solar orbit, regardless\nof how it came about, just as Earth and Moon are. I don't know how to\naccount for the six-year cycle.\n\nBlue, so far as we can tell from the text, is uncannily like Earth. It seems\nto have the same gravity, solar year, length of day, seasons, atmosphere,\nchemical composition, etc. (If that isn't true, then we've had the wool\npulled over our eyes, and few of our speculations matter. There's no point\nin figuring times and distances when we're not using the same clocks and\nyardsticks.) Even the flora and fauna aren't all that different. What is\ntrue of Blue seems also to be true of Green, for the most part. The\ndifferences are less of kind than of degree. The main difference between\nBlue and Green evidenced in the text is that the latter is much hotter;\nindeed, Green seems to have no seasons. If the above figures are right, then\nthe heat of Green is not due to it being closer to the sun than Blue. Green\nmust have no axial tilt, to account for the lack of seasons.\n\nI recall no mention of Green causing an eclipse of the sun on Blue. Does\nthis preclude it orbiting Blue? Or, for that matter, from them orbiting each\nother? Even near conjunction Green is said to \"rise\", and is apparently only\nvisible at night, though once risen it is then so bright as to be \"almost a\nsecond sun\" (\"Afterward\", EXODUS).\n\nI don't know where all this is leading, but I really wish someone would come\nup with a better explanation of Gagliardo's measurements, which are, btw, on\npage 228 of IGJ.\n\n-Roy"
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