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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3121",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 3121,
    "subject": "thanks blattid, but...",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2002-04-03T22:00:39+00:00",
    "last": "2002-04-03T22:22:54+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0204-538@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "maa32",
        "address": "maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu"
      },
      "date": "2002-04-03T22:00:39+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) thanks blattid, but...",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Well Blattid, I would love to assimilate the Cummean into the status of an \ninhumu, but (alas) I think Wolfe said she was an \"alien\".  I'm not sure \nexactly what that means, but he did say for sure that Merryn was NOT an inhumu \neven though she had difficulty with animals in that recent interview (with \nNick Gevers, correct?).  Would things from the moon really be aliens ... hmm. \nProbably not.  Juganu does indicate that there are inhumu on Urth with the \nstatement \"We are everywhere!\" in Return to the Whorl, and I would like to say \nthat the Cummean is one, but I think there might not be enough evidence for \nthat.\n\nHey, \"unfortunately\"?!  Are you saying I'm like the \"bad guy\" on the list?  If \nmy theories prove true is it like the Dark Side of the Force triumphing or \nsomething?!  Oh well.  \"It's better to be feared than loved\", I suppose.\n\nMarc Aramini"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0204-539@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes",
        "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-04-03T22:22:54+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (urth) thanks blattid, but...",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0204-538@digest.urth.net>",
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Marcus Araminius did write:"
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Well Blattid, I would love to assimilate the Cummean into the status\nof an inhumu, but (alas) I think Wolfe said she was an \"alien\".  "
        },
        {
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          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I'm pretty sure the inhumi qualify as \"alien,\" whether Green is\nLune or not. (And really, it isn't _that_ hard to remember: he is \nan inhumu, she is an inhuma, they are inhumi.) \n\nNot that I necessarily think she's an inhuma, either. Just an\nidle speculation."
        },
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I'm not sure exactly what that means, but he did say for sure that\nMerryn was NOT an inhumu even though she had difficulty with animals"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Not sure of the relevance of this -- there's no particular reason\nto think that Merryn is the same kind of creature as the Cumaean;\nI had assumed, perhaps foolishly, that she was human."
        },
        {
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Probably not.  Juganu does indicate that there are inhumu on Urth\nwith the statement \"We are everywhere!\" in Return to the Whorl,\nand I would like to say that the Cummean is one, but I think there\nmight not be enough evidence for that."
        },
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          "text": "Nope, only that she's some kind of reptilian alien who can simulate\nbeing a human. Doubtless there are thousands of such species in the\ngalaxy; changeling aliens seem to be as common in the Lupiverse as\nnigh-omnipotent beings are in the Star Trek cosmos."
        },
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          "text": "Hey, \"unfortunately\"?!  Are you saying I'm like the \"bad guy\" on the list?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "No, only that I really really really don't like the idea of Blue \nbeing Ushas. In fact, as weird as some of your theories seem to \nme, they're generally interested and well-argued, if not sufficiently\nsupported -- basically, I think you need to distinguish better a \nplausible theory and a probable one: with the exception of the Ushas/Blue\nhypothesis, not one of your theories seems particularly _implausible_,\nbut most of them are not sufficiently supported by textual citations\nto seem _probable_ to me, at this time (though, as noted, I have \nenough respect for them that I will be watching for such in my next\nreadthrough -- and am watching for possible clues that GW might have\npicked up on & retconned in my current readthrough of tBotNS).\n\nIn addition, I did not say \"unfortunately.\" I said,"
        },
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          "text": "I almost hope I'm wrong, as it would make Marc's \ntheories one step closer to probability."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I meant, of course, the \"Blue=Ushas\" hypothesis."
        },
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          "kind": "quote",
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          "text": "If my theories prove true is it like the Dark Side of the Force\ntriumphing or something?!  Oh well.  \"It's better to be feared\nthan loved\", I suppose."
        },
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          "text": "Grin. You're the third person I've seen quote Machievelli in as\nmany days. I wonder what's in the air?\n\n--Dan'l"
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