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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 3143, "subject": "Tracking Down the Hits", "messages": 3, "voices": 3, "first": "2002-04-11T15:47:23+00:00", "last": "2002-04-11T18:00:13+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Straight", "address": "straight at email.unc.edu" }, "date": "2002-04-11T15:47:23+00:00", "subject": "(urth) Tracking Down the Hits", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Thanks to mantis, John Barach (whose bibliography I've cut/pasted from\nbelow) and all the others who helped recommend uncollected Wolfe shorts.\n\nHere's my list of most of the shorts that got recommended by someone, with\na start at trying to order them by how easy they would be to get:\n\n* Game in the Pope's Head\n* The Boy Who Hooked the Sun\n The Year's Best Fantasy: Second Annual Collection, ed. Ellen\n Datlow & Terri Windling, St. Martin's, 1989\n\nThese two are clear winners: multiple recommendations, two in the same\ncollection, and I'm pretty sure my library has this book.\n\n* Loco Parentis, Again, Dangerous Visions, ed. Harlan Ellison,\n Doubleday, 1972. \n\nThis anthology is pretty common. In fact, I thought I'd read it. Is\n\"Loco Parentis\" about a boy in a treehouse?\n\n* The Tale of the Four Accused, Arabesques 2, ed. Susan Shwartz,\n Avon, 1989\n* Pocketsful of Diamonds, Strange Attraction, ed. Edward Kramer, \n\t\tShadowLands, 2000. \n* Houston, 1943, Tropical Chills, ed. Tim Sullivan, Avon, 1988\n\nAvailable in the UNC library.\n\n* The Sailor Who Sailed After the Sun \n The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror: Sixth Annual Collection,\n ed. Ellen Datlow & Terri Windling, St. Martin's, 1993\n\nI think my public library has this series.\n\n* Remembrance to Come, Orbit 6, 1970.\n\nI think the public library has many of the Orbits too.\n\n* Empires of Foliage and Flower\n The Best of Crank!, ed. Bryan Cholfin, Tor, 1998\n\nNacre said this would be easy to find. Or did he just mean, \"easier than\ntracking down a copy of Crank #3\"?\n\n* The Night Chough, The Crow: Shattered Lives & Broken Dreams, ed.\n J. O'Barr & Ed Kramer, Ballantine Del Rey, 1998\n\nI've heard of this book elsewhere, which seems promising.\n\n* Slow Children at Play, Cheap Street: New Castle, VA, 1989 \n* At the Point of Capricorn, Cheap Street, 1983\n Weird Tales Spring 1988\n\nThese are probably right out, as I can't afford a Cheap Street and I doubt\nI can find back issues of Weird Tales.\n\n* Lord of the Land, Lovecraft's Legacy, ed. Robert Weinberg\n & Martin H. Greenberg, Tor, 1990\n Best New Horror 2, ed. Stephen Jones & Ramsey Campbell,\n Robinson, 1991\n The Giant Book of Best New Horror, ed. Stephen Jones &\n Ramsey Campbell, Magpie, 1993\n Cthulhu 2000: A Lovecraftian Anthology, ed. Jim Turner,\n Arkham House, 1995\n\nAny thoughts about which of these might be the easiest to find?\n(wait, I see UNC has the first one - yay!)\n\n* The Seraph from the Sepulcher, Sacred Visions, ed. Andrew M. Greeley &\n Michael Cassutt, Tor, 1991 \n\n* The Monday Man, Monochrome: The Readercon Anthology, ed.\n Bryan Cholfin, Broken Mirrors Press, 1990 \n\nAny ideas about these two? Not available at UNC, but I might try the\npublic library.\n\nOf course I could probably track any of these down on the web, but I\nwasn't thinking of buying a whole anthology for one story. Unless someone\nwants to recommend one or more of these books as worth buying for the\nother stories.\n\n-Rostrum" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Jerry Friedman", "address": "jerry_friedman at yahoo.com" }, "date": "2002-04-11T16:56:36+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Tracking Down the Hits", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "--- Michael Straight wrote:\nThanks to mantis, John Barach (whose bibliography I've cut/pasted from\nbelow) and all the others who helped recommend uncollected Wolfe shorts.\n\nHere's my list of most of the shorts that got recommended by someone,\nwith\na start at trying to order them by how easy they would be to get:" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "..." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "* Loco Parentis, Again, Dangerous Visions, ed. Harlan Ellison,\n Doubleday, 1972. \n\nThis anthology is pretty common. In fact, I thought I'd read it. Is\n\"Loco Parentis\" about a boy in a treehouse?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "...\n\nIt's the dialogue between the baby's ape-like father and robot-like\nmother. I like its companion pieces, \"Against the Lafayette\nEscadrille\" and \"Robot's Story\", considerably better.\n\nDon't forget about interlibrary loan. They do the tracking down,\nand they've never failed me yet. (I haven't ordered anything as\nobscure as _The Best of Crank!_, but they did find me a copy of\nNabokov's _Poems and Problems_, which I think would be at least a\nhundred dollars used.)\n\nAbout Time Dept.: I picked up an interlibrary-loan copy of _The\nFifth Head of Cerberus_ yesterday. It's enough to make me want to\nskip bird-watching this weekend. Though actually, from the way you\nguys are talking about 5HC, getting out in the spring sunshine may\nbe required!)\n\nJerry Friedman" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Mark Millman", "address": "millman at heimdallr.dyndns.org" }, "date": "2002-04-11T18:00:13+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) Tracking Down the Hits", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Rostrum,\n\nI meant both \"easier to find than _Crank!_ #3\" and \"probably\neasy to find at your local bookstore\"--at least two near me\nhave it in stock, though I admit that one is an SF specialty\nbookstore (Pandemonium in Cambridge, MA, for those who are\ninterested--standard disclaimers apply, i.e., that I have no\npersonal interest in the store's success--but on the other\nhand, I would like to see it survive), and the other is a\nBarnes & Noble, which you may not want to patronize. You\nmight, however, have a look at the book at your local B&N to\nsee whether you think the entire anthology is worth getting,\nand if you like I'll get a copy at Pandemonium and send it\nto you. It's also possible that B&N around here has it be-\ncause Broken Mirrors (Bryan Cholfin's house, which he closed\nwhen he got an editorial job in New York--_Crank!_ was his\nmagazine) was a local publisher, so it may be harder to find\nin other parts of the country.\n\nSome further notes, while I'm at it:\n\n\"Loco Parentis\" is about foster parentage, and is slight, in\nmy opinion; I preferred \"Robot's Story\", also in A,DV. I\nthink the story about a boy in a treehouse is \"Paul's Tree-\nhouse\", which has certain affinities with \"And When They\nAppear\" (previously discussed on the list).\n\nI should point out that the Spring 1988 issue of _Weird\nTales_ is a special Gene Wolfe issue, and probably a worth-\nwhile purchase; it contains a revised version of Wolfe's\nfirst sale, \"The Dead Man\". I was able to find two copies\non ABE (http://www.abebooks.com), one for ten dollars and\none for six. My search criteria were:\n\n Title: Weird Tales\n Keywords: 1988\n\nOne of the used book stores in Cambridge has had (I don't\nknow whether it's still there) a copy of \"Sacred Visions\";\nif you like, I'll send you that, too.\n\nAnd again, _Monochrome_ has been fairly easy to find around\nhere, both used and at B&N, but then Readercon is a local\nevent and _Monochrome_ was published by Broken Mirrors. As\ngeneral anthologies go, this one is probably worth getting;\nin addition to \"The Monday Man\", it has stories by Ellen\nKushner, James Morrow, and Paul Park, among others; poems by\nThomas Disch; and an introduction by Samuel R. Delaney. Of\ncourse, I've cited the authors I like, and your mileage may\nvary.\n\nI hope this proves helpful.\n\nNacre" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Rostrum (Michael Straight) wrote:\nThanks to mantis, John Barach (whose bibliography\nI've cut/pasted from below) and all the others who\nhelped recommend uncollected Wolfe shorts.\n\nHere's my list of most of the shorts that got recom-\nmended by someone, with a start at trying to order\nthem by how easy they would be to get:\n\n* Game in the Pope's Head\n* The Boy Who Hooked the Sun\n The Year's Best Fantasy: Second Annual Col-\n lection, ed. Ellen Datlow & Terri\n Windling, St. Martin's, 1989\n\nThese two are clear winners: multiple recommenda-\ntions, two in the same collection, and I'm pretty\nsure my library has this book.\n\n* Loco Parentis, Again, Dangerous Visions, ed. Har-\n lan Ellison, Doubleday, 1972.\n\nThis anthology is pretty common. In fact, I thought\nI'd read it. Is \"Loco Parentis\" about a boy in a\ntreehouse?\n\n* The Tale of the Four Accused, Arabesques 2, ed.\n Susan Shwartz, Avon, 1989\n* Pocketsful of Diamonds, Strange Attraction, ed.\n Edward Kramer, ShadowLands, 2000.\n* Houston, 1943, Tropical Chills, ed. Tim Sullivan,\n Avon, 1988\n\nAvailable in the UNC library.\n\n* The Sailor Who Sailed After the Sun\n The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror: Sixth An-\n nual Collection, ed. Ellen Datlow &\n Terri Windling, St. Martin's, 1993\n\nI think my public library has this series.\n\n* Remembrance to Come, Orbit 6, 1970.\n\nI think the public library has many of the Orbits\ntoo.\n\n* Empires of Foliage and Flower\n The Best of Crank!, ed. Bryan Cholfin, Tor,\n 1998\n\nNacre said this would be easy to find. Or did he\njust mean, \"easier than tracking down a copy of\nCrank #3\"?\n\n* The Night Chough, The Crow: Shattered Lives & Bro-\n ken Dreams, ed. J. O'Barr & Ed Kra-\n mer, Ballantine Del Rey, 1998\n\nI've heard of this book elsewhere, which seems prom-\nising.\n\n* Slow Children at Play, Cheap Street: New Castle,\n VA, 1989\n* At the Point of Capricorn, Cheap Street, 1983\n Weird Tales Spring 1988\n\nThese are probably right out, as I can't afford a\nCheap Street and I doubt I can find back issues of\nWeird Tales.\n\n* Lord of the Land, Lovecraft's Legacy, ed. Robert\n Weinberg & Martin H. Greenberg, Tor,\n 1990\n Best New Horror 2, ed. Stephen Jones & Ram-\n sey Campbell, Robinson, 1991\n The Giant Book of Best New Horror, ed. Ste-\n phen Jones & Ramsey Campbell, Mag-\n pie, 1993\n Cthulhu 2000: A Lovecraftian Anthology, ed.\n Jim Turner, Arkham House, 1995\n\nAny thoughts about which of these might be the easi-\nest to find? (wait, I see UNC has the first one -\nyay!)\n\n* The Seraph from the Sepulcher, Sacred Visions, ed.\n Andrew M. Greeley & Michael Cassutt,\n Tor, 1991\n\n* The Monday Man, Monochrome: The Readercon Antholo-\n gy, ed. Bryan Cholfin, Broken Mir-\n rors Press, 1990\n\nAny ideas about these two? Not available at UNC,\nbut I might try the public library.\n\nOf course I could probably track any of these down\non the web, but I wasn't thinking of buying a whole\nanthology for one story. Unless someone wants to\nrecommend one or more of these books as worth buying\nfor the other stories.\n\n-Rostrum" } ] } ] }