# Tracking Down the Hits *The Urth list — 3 messages, 3 voices, 11 Apr 2002* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Michael Straight *11 Apr 2002, 15:47* Thanks to mantis, John Barach (whose bibliography I've cut/pasted from below) and all the others who helped recommend uncollected Wolfe shorts. Here's my list of most of the shorts that got recommended by someone, with a start at trying to order them by how easy they would be to get: * Game in the Pope's Head * The Boy Who Hooked the Sun The Year's Best Fantasy: Second Annual Collection, ed. Ellen Datlow & Terri Windling, St. Martin's, 1989 These two are clear winners: multiple recommendations, two in the same collection, and I'm pretty sure my library has this book. * Loco Parentis, Again, Dangerous Visions, ed. Harlan Ellison, Doubleday, 1972. This anthology is pretty common. In fact, I thought I'd read it. Is "Loco Parentis" about a boy in a treehouse? * The Tale of the Four Accused, Arabesques 2, ed. Susan Shwartz, Avon, 1989 * Pocketsful of Diamonds, Strange Attraction, ed. Edward Kramer, ShadowLands, 2000. * Houston, 1943, Tropical Chills, ed. Tim Sullivan, Avon, 1988 Available in the UNC library. * The Sailor Who Sailed After the Sun The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror: Sixth Annual Collection, ed. Ellen Datlow & Terri Windling, St. Martin's, 1993 I think my public library has this series. * Remembrance to Come, Orbit 6, 1970. I think the public library has many of the Orbits too. * Empires of Foliage and Flower The Best of Crank!, ed. Bryan Cholfin, Tor, 1998 Nacre said this would be easy to find. Or did he just mean, "easier than tracking down a copy of Crank #3"? * The Night Chough, The Crow: Shattered Lives & Broken Dreams, ed. J. O'Barr & Ed Kramer, Ballantine Del Rey, 1998 I've heard of this book elsewhere, which seems promising. * Slow Children at Play, Cheap Street: New Castle, VA, 1989 * At the Point of Capricorn, Cheap Street, 1983 Weird Tales Spring 1988 These are probably right out, as I can't afford a Cheap Street and I doubt I can find back issues of Weird Tales. * Lord of the Land, Lovecraft's Legacy, ed. Robert Weinberg & Martin H. Greenberg, Tor, 1990 Best New Horror 2, ed. Stephen Jones & Ramsey Campbell, Robinson, 1991 The Giant Book of Best New Horror, ed. Stephen Jones & Ramsey Campbell, Magpie, 1993 Cthulhu 2000: A Lovecraftian Anthology, ed. Jim Turner, Arkham House, 1995 Any thoughts about which of these might be the easiest to find? (wait, I see UNC has the first one - yay!) * The Seraph from the Sepulcher, Sacred Visions, ed. Andrew M. Greeley & Michael Cassutt, Tor, 1991 * The Monday Man, Monochrome: The Readercon Anthology, ed. Bryan Cholfin, Broken Mirrors Press, 1990 Any ideas about these two? Not available at UNC, but I might try the public library. Of course I could probably track any of these down on the web, but I wasn't thinking of buying a whole anthology for one story. Unless someone wants to recommend one or more of these books as worth buying for the other stories. -Rostrum --- ### Jerry Friedman *11 Apr 2002, 16:56 · follows Michael Straight* > --- Michael Straight wrote: > Thanks to mantis, John Barach (whose bibliography I've cut/pasted from > below) and all the others who helped recommend uncollected Wolfe shorts. > > Here's my list of most of the shorts that got recommended by someone, > with > a start at trying to order them by how easy they would be to get: ... > * Loco Parentis, Again, Dangerous Visions, ed. Harlan Ellison, > Doubleday, 1972. > > This anthology is pretty common. In fact, I thought I'd read it. Is > "Loco Parentis" about a boy in a treehouse? ... It's the dialogue between the baby's ape-like father and robot-like mother. I like its companion pieces, "Against the Lafayette Escadrille" and "Robot's Story", considerably better. Don't forget about interlibrary loan. They do the tracking down, and they've never failed me yet. (I haven't ordered anything as obscure as _The Best of Crank!_, but they did find me a copy of Nabokov's _Poems and Problems_, which I think would be at least a hundred dollars used.) About Time Dept.: I picked up an interlibrary-loan copy of _The Fifth Head of Cerberus_ yesterday. It's enough to make me want to skip bird-watching this weekend. Though actually, from the way you guys are talking about 5HC, getting out in the spring sunshine may be required!) Jerry Friedman --- ### Mark Millman *11 Apr 2002, 18:00 · follows Jerry Friedman* Rostrum, I meant both "easier to find than _Crank!_ #3" and "probably easy to find at your local bookstore"--at least two near me have it in stock, though I admit that one is an SF specialty bookstore (Pandemonium in Cambridge, MA, for those who are interested--standard disclaimers apply, i.e., that I have no personal interest in the store's success--but on the other hand, I would like to see it survive), and the other is a Barnes & Noble, which you may not want to patronize. You might, however, have a look at the book at your local B&N to see whether you think the entire anthology is worth getting, and if you like I'll get a copy at Pandemonium and send it to you. It's also possible that B&N around here has it be- cause Broken Mirrors (Bryan Cholfin's house, which he closed when he got an editorial job in New York--_Crank!_ was his magazine) was a local publisher, so it may be harder to find in other parts of the country. Some further notes, while I'm at it: "Loco Parentis" is about foster parentage, and is slight, in my opinion; I preferred "Robot's Story", also in A,DV. I think the story about a boy in a treehouse is "Paul's Tree- house", which has certain affinities with "And When They Appear" (previously discussed on the list). I should point out that the Spring 1988 issue of _Weird Tales_ is a special Gene Wolfe issue, and probably a worth- while purchase; it contains a revised version of Wolfe's first sale, "The Dead Man". I was able to find two copies on ABE (http://www.abebooks.com), one for ten dollars and one for six. My search criteria were: Title: Weird Tales Keywords: 1988 One of the used book stores in Cambridge has had (I don't know whether it's still there) a copy of "Sacred Visions"; if you like, I'll send you that, too. And again, _Monochrome_ has been fairly easy to find around here, both used and at B&N, but then Readercon is a local event and _Monochrome_ was published by Broken Mirrors. As general anthologies go, this one is probably worth getting; in addition to "The Monday Man", it has stories by Ellen Kushner, James Morrow, and Paul Park, among others; poems by Thomas Disch; and an introduction by Samuel R. Delaney. Of course, I've cited the authors I like, and your mileage may vary. I hope this proves helpful. Nacre > On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Rostrum (Michael Straight) wrote: > Thanks to mantis, John Barach (whose bibliography > I've cut/pasted from below) and all the others who > helped recommend uncollected Wolfe shorts. > > Here's my list of most of the shorts that got recom- > mended by someone, with a start at trying to order > them by how easy they would be to get: > > * Game in the Pope's Head > * The Boy Who Hooked the Sun > The Year's Best Fantasy: Second Annual Col- > lection, ed. Ellen Datlow & Terri > Windling, St. Martin's, 1989 > > These two are clear winners: multiple recommenda- > tions, two in the same collection, and I'm pretty > sure my library has this book. > > * Loco Parentis, Again, Dangerous Visions, ed. Har- > lan Ellison, Doubleday, 1972. > > This anthology is pretty common. In fact, I thought > I'd read it. Is "Loco Parentis" about a boy in a > treehouse? > > * The Tale of the Four Accused, Arabesques 2, ed. > Susan Shwartz, Avon, 1989 > * Pocketsful of Diamonds, Strange Attraction, ed. > Edward Kramer, ShadowLands, 2000. > * Houston, 1943, Tropical Chills, ed. Tim Sullivan, > Avon, 1988 > > Available in the UNC library. > > * The Sailor Who Sailed After the Sun > The Year's Best Fantasy and Horror: Sixth An- > nual Collection, ed. Ellen Datlow & > Terri Windling, St. Martin's, 1993 > > I think my public library has this series. > > * Remembrance to Come, Orbit 6, 1970. > > I think the public library has many of the Orbits > too. > > * Empires of Foliage and Flower > The Best of Crank!, ed. Bryan Cholfin, Tor, > 1998 > > Nacre said this would be easy to find. Or did he > just mean, "easier than tracking down a copy of > Crank #3"? > > * The Night Chough, The Crow: Shattered Lives & Bro- > ken Dreams, ed. J. O'Barr & Ed Kra- > mer, Ballantine Del Rey, 1998 > > I've heard of this book elsewhere, which seems prom- > ising. > > * Slow Children at Play, Cheap Street: New Castle, > VA, 1989 > * At the Point of Capricorn, Cheap Street, 1983 > Weird Tales Spring 1988 > > These are probably right out, as I can't afford a > Cheap Street and I doubt I can find back issues of > Weird Tales. > > * Lord of the Land, Lovecraft's Legacy, ed. Robert > Weinberg & Martin H. Greenberg, Tor, > 1990 > Best New Horror 2, ed. Stephen Jones & Ram- > sey Campbell, Robinson, 1991 > The Giant Book of Best New Horror, ed. Ste- > phen Jones & Ramsey Campbell, Mag- > pie, 1993 > Cthulhu 2000: A Lovecraftian Anthology, ed. > Jim Turner, Arkham House, 1995 > > Any thoughts about which of these might be the easi- > est to find? (wait, I see UNC has the first one - > yay!) > > * The Seraph from the Sepulcher, Sacred Visions, ed. > Andrew M. Greeley & Michael Cassutt, > Tor, 1991 > > * The Monday Man, Monochrome: The Readercon Antholo- > gy, ed. Bryan Cholfin, Broken Mir- > rors Press, 1990 > > Any ideas about these two? Not available at UNC, > but I might try the public library. > > Of course I could probably track any of these down > on the web, but I wasn't thinking of buying a whole > anthology for one story. Unless someone wants to > recommend one or more of these books as worth buying > for the other stories. > > -Rostrum ---