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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3281",
    "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it.  Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.",
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  "archive": "urth",
  "thread": {
    "id": 3281,
    "subject": "case cephalothorax/URTH",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2002-05-27T14:25:15+00:00",
    "last": "2002-05-28T01:19:11+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0205-1094@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-05-27T14:25:15+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) case cephalothorax/URTH",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Cephalothorax wrote:\nThat as _Urth_ for me. I was annoyed and confused when\nI first read it. It just seemed to be a bunch more\nstuff tacked onto the end of TBOTLS. After reading\nthis list for awhile, and then re-reading TBOTLS and\nUrth, I'm stunned and embarrassed that I missed so\nmuch.\n\nHmm... add _Free_Live_Free_, which I still have\nreservations about, but appreciate a lot more after\nreading this list and then rereading.\n\nBoth of these revisions occured... oh jeez, could it\nhave been six years ago? Has this list really been\naround that long? Jumpin' Jiminy."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Thank you for giving us this example.\n\nIt seems that you disliked URTH on first read because it seemed jumbled,\npointless, and/or it did not add anything to your reading of TBOTNS.  (This\nputs you in with a recognizable group of people who liked TBOTNS but\ndisliked URTH.) But then after being exposed to the coffeehouse of ideas\naround here, you re-read URTH. You were surprised at confronting your first\nreading, yes, but did you/do you actually =like= the book now?  Did you\nchange from disliking it to liking it?  Or is it more that you still\ndislike it but respect it now?\n\nProbably there were several little things, but if you can, please tell what\nwas the single most revelatory idea from the list that changed your view?\n\n=mantis=\n\n\nSIRIUS FICTION\nbooklets on Gene Wolfe, John Crowley\nLexicon Urthus out of print!\nhttp://www.siriusfiction.com/"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0205-1096@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice K. Turner",
        "address": "aturner6 at nyc.rr.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-05-28T01:19:11+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) case cephalothorax/URTH",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0205-1094@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
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          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "----- Original Message -----"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "From: \"Michael Andre-Driussi\" <mantis at siriusfiction.com>\nCephalothorax wrote:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "That as _Urth_ for me. I was annoyed and confused when\nI first read it. It just seemed to be a bunch more\nstuff tacked onto the end of TBOTLS. After reading\nthis list for awhile, and then re-reading TBOTLS and\nUrth, I'm stunned and embarrassed that I missed so\nmuch."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Probably there were several little things, but if you can, please tell\nwhat\nwas the single most revelatory idea from the list that changed your view?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I would like to know this too. I am among the minority who found URTH\nabsolutely necessary, and who have never been able to understand the\nhostility of the majority--the ones who want to segregate it from the trio.\n\n-alga"
        }
      ]
    }
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