Early Urth & Other Writers

The Urth list — 3 messages, 3 voices, 15 May 1997
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Joel Priddy15 May 1997, 14:20original
mantis, you say that I should have said "the earliest days of the White Fountain" instead of "the earliest days of man's habitation of Urth." That was just me trying to cram extra information into a sentence in emulation of Mr. Wolfe <g>. The point being that the earliest days of the White Fountain's existence stretch back to the earliest days of humans on Urth, this according to the Hierodules. I'm only belaboring this point to make sure I have it correctly, because I'm trying to get a semi-solid picture of Severian's range and the history of Urth as it might relate to the Whorl. If I haven't misread this, and there isn't a significant historical period on Urth previous to the White Fountains creation, then Severian probably observed the labor crews constructing the Whorl, and every other major achievement since the invention of agriculture. Otherwise, the Urth is a big place, and just because Apu's people are at a stone-age agrarian level, doesn't mean that there aren't other significantly developed human cultures on other continents. I think that sort of thing has been known to happen <g>. Perhaps even a previous body-graft Typhon could be ruling somewhere before relocating to that part of the Urth. Okay, enough of that. As an aside, for people whose bedside table is getting empty, I thought I'd mention a couple books that appealed to the Wolfe fan in me that I haven't seen mentioned previously. Fishboy by Mark Richard This novel is a little less baroque than a lot of Wolfe is, but any of the characters and events could easily slip into any given Wolfe novel without anyone noticing. It also has, hands down, the most gorgeously written opening paragraph I've ever come across. Immortality by Milan Kundera This one may seem like more of stretch, but this is a novel that I found required the same sort of attention and contemplation as a Wolfe book. In both cases, you want to make sure you haven't skimmed over even a single sentence if you want to make it to the ending in one piece. The_Luck_In_The_Head by M. John Harrison All I know of Harrison is this one story, printed as a comic book by Dark Horse and Visual Graphics with uneven art by Ian Miller. It's apparently from a collection of short stories, In_Viriconium, but I've had no luck in finding it. It's so Wolfe-like that I suspect Harrison had just set down his copy of Shadow and said, "Now THAT's what I'm gonna write like!" Thomas Pynchon may or may not appeal to Wolfe-fans as a whole, but I found the reading muscles I built up digging through the layers of Wolfe's writing greatly enhanced my appreciation of Pynchon. All right, that's enough from me. Later, everybody. JOEL cephlathorax
Richard Horton16 May 1997, 08:32original

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Joel Priddy <jpriddy at saturn.vcu.edu> 05/15/97 09:20am >>> writes to recommend:
The_Luck_In_The_Head by M. John Harrison All I know of Harrison is this one story, printed as a comic book by Dark Horse and Visual Graphics with uneven art by Ian Miller. It's apparently from a collection of short stories, In_Viriconium, but I've had no luck in finding it. It's so Wolfe-like that I suspect Harrison had just set down his copy of Shadow and said, "Now THAT's what I'm gonna write like!"
M. John Harrison is a very fine British writer of SF and mainstream fiction. He's probably best known in the States for his Viriconium books: The Pastel City, A Storm of Wings, and The Floating Gods. There was a story collection, as well, though I think the US title was different than the UK title: moreover, one or more of the novels is an expansion of some of the short stories, and his whole publication history is a bit chaotic. I understand that several of his novels have been published in the UK but not yet in the US. However, the Viriconium books all had paperback editions in the States, the later ones were published by Timescape, IIRC. He's very good, very evocative, and, I'd say, very British. The Pastel City was published in about 1973, so it, at least, was not influenced by TBotNS. Definitely recommended, though, and certainly of the same general orbit as Wolfe. -- Tusk
Jason Voegele16 May 1997, 11:20original

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While we're on the subject of other authors (and before we determine where we're supposed to post these things), has anyone read Adam Lee's (AKA A. A. Attanasio's) THE DARK SHORE (Book One of The Dominions of Irth). You can immediately see that this book bears at least a good bit of resemblance to TBOTNS. I haven't read it yet and what I'm wondering is this a cheap knockoff of The Book, or a more sophisticated "metafiction" about the book? Attanasio is a rather ambitious writer so I suspect the latter. Jason

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