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  "thread": {
    "id": 3314,
    "subject": "Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly Tr",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2002-06-12T19:13:50+00:00",
    "last": "2002-06-13T09:38:06+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0206-1225@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Straight",
        "address": "straight at email.unc.edu"
      },
      "date": "2002-06-12T19:13:50+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (urth) Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly Tr",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:\nRostrum saith:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "If you're going to count the intros/appendix where Wolfe talks about\ntranslating Severian's manuscript, Wolfe directly refers to all the\nstuff of Severian's time being in the future, or \"futurity.\""
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Yes. But on the other hand, he also writes of having been allowed\nto tour and photograph the \"surviving\" buildings of that distant\nfuture period. Which seems to put the distant future into the distant\npast and make the whole thing cyclic after all, dunnit?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "To me, at that point it became obvious the whole thing was a joke and not\nmeant to have any real bearing on Severian's story.\n\n-Rostrum"
        }
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0206-1230@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "matthew.malthouse",
        "address": "matthew.malthouse at guardian.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "2002-06-13T09:38:06+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (urth) Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly Tr",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0206-1225@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
      "blocks": [
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "On 12/06/2002 20:13:50 Michael Straight wrote:\nOn Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Rostrum saith:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 3,
          "text": "If you're going to count the intros/appendix where Wolfe talks about\ntranslating Severian's manuscript, Wolfe directly refers to all the\nstuff of Severian's time being in the future, or \"futurity.\""
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Yes. But on the other hand, he also writes of having been allowed\nto tour and photograph the \"surviving\" buildings of that distant\nfuture period. Which seems to put the distant future into the distant\npast and make the whole thing cyclic after all, dunnit?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "To me, at that point it became obvious the whole thing was a joke and not\nmeant to have any real bearing on Severian's story."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "For no pertinent reason:  Mary Gentle's \"Ash\"\n\n\nMatthew"
        }
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