Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly Tr The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 12 Jun 2002 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3314 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== Michael Straight — 12 Jun 2002, 19:13 > On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > Rostrum saith: > > If you're going to count the intros/appendix where Wolfe talks about > > translating Severian's manuscript, Wolfe directly refers to all the > > stuff of Severian's time being in the future, or "futurity." > Yes. But on the other hand, he also writes of having been allowed > to tour and photograph the "surviving" buildings of that distant > future period. Which seems to put the distant future into the distant > past and make the whole thing cyclic after all, dunnit? To me, at that point it became obvious the whole thing was a joke and not meant to have any real bearing on Severian's story. -Rostrum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ matthew.malthouse — 13 Jun 2002, 09:38 follows, by subject match Michael Straight > On 12/06/2002 20:13:50 Michael Straight wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: > > Rostrum saith: > > > If you're going to count the intros/appendix where Wolfe talks about > > > translating Severian's manuscript, Wolfe directly refers to all the > > > stuff of Severian's time being in the future, or "futurity." > > Yes. But on the other hand, he also writes of having been allowed > > to tour and photograph the "surviving" buildings of that distant > > future period. Which seems to put the distant future into the distant > > past and make the whole thing cyclic after all, dunnit? > To me, at that point it became obvious the whole thing was a joke and not > meant to have any real bearing on Severian's story. For no pertinent reason: Mary Gentle's "Ash" Matthew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------