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  "thread": {
    "id": 3317,
    "subject": "Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is the Holy T rinity",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2002-06-13T22:48:37+00:00",
    "last": "2002-06-17T05:26:59+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0206-1235@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jerry Friedman",
        "address": "jerry_friedman at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-06-13T22:48:37+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (urth) Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is the Holy T rinity",
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          "text": "--- Michael Straight <straight at email.unc.edu> wrote:\nOn Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:"
        },
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          "text": "So Typhon and his brood create the _Whorl,_ a place in which they\ncan be as gods; they brutally try to suppress all memory of the\nreligions of Urth. Yet hints of these religions creep through, so\nthat the \"Vironese Faith\" rather resembles Temple Judaism, albeit\nwith many Gods; so that the Trivigauntes have a religion very similar\nto Islam, except with the sexual roles reversed; and so that there\nis even some vague memory of the Incarnation."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I assumed that these were deliberate parodies of Islam, Judaism,\nChristianity, etc. by Typhon et. al."
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          "text": "...\n\nThe Vironese faith is not in fact that much like Judaism.  They\nshare priests sacrificing animals in a temple, but I don't remember\nprivate confession, augury, or dancing sibyls in Judaism, and of\ncourse there's no polytheism.  The haruspication makes it more like\nthe ancient Romans' religion, doesn't it?\n\nJerry Friedman"
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    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0206-1243@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Andy Robertson",
        "address": "andywrobertson at clara.co.uk"
      },
      "date": "2002-06-17T05:26:59+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is the Holy T rinity",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0206-1235@digest.urth.net>",
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          "text": "----- Original Message -----"
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "From: \"Jerry Friedman\" <jerry_friedman at yahoo.com>\n\nThe Vironese faith is not in fact that much like Judaism.  They\nshare priests sacrificing animals in a temple, but I don't remember\nprivate confession, augury, or dancing sibyls in Judaism, and of\ncourse there's no polytheism.  The haruspication makes it more like\nthe ancient Romans' religion, doesn't it?"
        },
        {
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          "text": "The Vironese faith is obviously based on ancient greek religion, with some\ninpout from other Indo-European polytheisms:\n\nThe maor thematic links are to the gods and goddesses in \"Soldier in the\nMist\".\n\n\n    hartshorn"
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