# Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is the Holy T rinity *The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 13 Jun 2002* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Jerry Friedman *13 Jun 2002, 22:48* > --- Michael Straight wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote: >> So Typhon and his brood create the _Whorl,_ a place in which they >> can be as gods; they brutally try to suppress all memory of the >> religions of Urth. Yet hints of these religions creep through, so >> that the "Vironese Faith" rather resembles Temple Judaism, albeit >> with many Gods; so that the Trivigauntes have a religion very similar >> to Islam, except with the sexual roles reversed; and so that there >> is even some vague memory of the Incarnation. > I assumed that these were deliberate parodies of Islam, Judaism, > Christianity, etc. by Typhon et. al. ... The Vironese faith is not in fact that much like Judaism. They share priests sacrificing animals in a temple, but I don't remember private confession, augury, or dancing sibyls in Judaism, and of course there's no polytheism. The haruspication makes it more like the ancient Romans' religion, doesn't it? Jerry Friedman --- ### Andy Robertson *17 Jun 2002, 05:26 · follows Jerry Friedman* ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Friedman" > > The Vironese faith is not in fact that much like Judaism. They > share priests sacrificing animals in a temple, but I don't remember > private confession, augury, or dancing sibyls in Judaism, and of > course there's no polytheism. The haruspication makes it more like > the ancient Romans' religion, doesn't it? The Vironese faith is obviously based on ancient greek religion, with some inpout from other Indo-European polytheisms: The maor thematic links are to the gods and goddesses in "Soldier in the Mist". hartshorn ---