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  "thread": {
    "id": 3318,
    "subject": "Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly Tr inity",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2002-06-13T22:53:36+00:00",
    "last": "2002-06-13T22:53:36+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0206-1236@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jerry Friedman",
        "address": "jerry_friedman at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-06-13T22:53:36+00:00",
      "subject": "RE: (urth) Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly Tr inity",
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          "text": "--- Michael Straight <straight at email.unc.edu> wrote:\nOn Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Rostrum saith:"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 3,
          "text": "If you're going to count the intros/appendix where Wolfe talks about\ntranslating Severian's manuscript, Wolfe directly refers to all the\nstuff of Severian's time being in the future, or \"futurity.\""
        },
        {
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          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Yes. But on the other hand, he also writes of having been allowed\nto tour and photograph the \"surviving\" buildings of that distant\nfuture period. Which seems to put the distant future into the distant\npast and make the whole thing cyclic after all, dunnit?"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I took \"surviving\" to mean from now till then."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "To me, at that point it became obvious the whole thing was a joke and\nnot\nmeant to have any real bearing on Severian's story."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "I thought it was more wit than a joke, and in either case quite\npossibly meant to have a bearing on the story.\n\nOne possible advantage of having all this stuff be in a previous\ncycle is that Silhorn's polygamy in Gaon becomes as sinless as that\nof the Hebrew Bible.  But maybe a better reading is that it *is*\nsinful?\n\nNonetheless, I really dislike the idea, and I hope Jeff Wilson is\nright and Wolfe thought he was answering a question about Yesod\nrather than Briah.\n\nJerry Friedman"
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