# Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly Tr inity

*The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 13 Jun 2002*

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### Jerry Friedman
*13 Jun 2002, 22:53*

> --- Michael Straight <straight at email.unc.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:

>> Rostrum saith:

>>> If you're going to count the intros/appendix where Wolfe talks about
>>> translating Severian's manuscript, Wolfe directly refers to all the
>>> stuff of Severian's time being in the future, or "futurity."

>> Yes. But on the other hand, he also writes of having been allowed
>> to tour and photograph the "surviving" buildings of that distant
>> future period. Which seems to put the distant future into the distant
>> past and make the whole thing cyclic after all, dunnit?

I took "surviving" to mean from now till then.

> To me, at that point it became obvious the whole thing was a joke and
> not
> meant to have any real bearing on Severian's story.

I thought it was more wit than a joke, and in either case quite
possibly meant to have a bearing on the story.

One possible advantage of having all this stuff be in a previous
cycle is that Silhorn's polygamy in Gaon becomes as sinless as that
of the Hebrew Bible.  But maybe a better reading is that it *is*
sinful?

Nonetheless, I really dislike the idea, and I hope Jeff Wilson is
right and Wolfe thought he was answering a question about Yesod
rather than Briah.

Jerry Friedman

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