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  "thread": {
    "id": 335,
    "subject": "Deep Thoughts: The Play, the Worm, the Rose",
    "messages": 1,
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    "first": "1998-02-02T07:43:24+00:00",
    "last": "1998-02-02T07:43:24+00:00"
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    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0006-0496@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Alice Turner",
        "address": "al at interport.net"
      },
      "date": "1998-02-02T07:43:24+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Deep Thoughts: The Play, the Worm, the Rose",
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          "text": "Some coincidental thoughts from all the ideas turning up: I dug around to\nfind the original Zoroastrian creation myth (here it is, in more detail than\nsome of you may care for: http://www.avesta.org/pahlavi/bundahis.html ). And\nI was noodling around with wondering why Wolfe, a professed Catholic, if\nperhaps not conventional, chose to use this model, which ignores Original\nSin in favor of a thoroughly dualist universe. And I though, well, Urth is\ndualistic, but Briah is not. And then I thought---aha, the series metaphor\nfor Original Sin is the black hole at the heart of the Old Sun! Which\nSeverian, the Savior, obliterates.\n\nI must say, this black hole had escaped me completely, though mantis thinks\nit is so obvious as to be beyond comment. But, though I still don't know how\nit got there, it seems a very powerful and important image to me. And I add\nto it Blake's equally powerful \"The Sick Rose.\" Blake was, of course, a\nreligious maverick bouncing off Protestantism, and may not have been\nthinking of Original Sin at all, but the poem is so apt as to be\nbreathtaking, and we know that Wolfe was quite consciously using rose\nimagery throughout. Here it is:\nhttp://www.mindspring.com/~cfeldman/sickrose.html\n\n-alga-"
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