{ "export": { "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3365", "note": "Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 3365, "subject": "In a Pig's Eye", "messages": 3, "voices": 3, "first": "2002-07-17T13:46:53+00:00", "last": "2002-07-18T23:17:38+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Charles Reed", "address": "cmreed at link.com" }, "date": "2002-07-17T13:46:53+00:00", "subject": "(urth) In a Pig's Eye", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Howdy everyone.\n\nI've been following the pretty high-level discussions going on\nconcerning Silk-in-Pig, Silk-23 vs Silk-43, etc. But at the risk of\nsounding both mundane and stupid, I need to ask a question regarding\nSilk giving his eye to Pig.\n\nPig is a (smallish) giant, but a giant nonetheless. He's what, maybe\nfour or five feet taller than Silk? Given this, Pig's head might\nreasonably be assumed to be twice as big (in diameter) as Silk's head,\nwith eye sockets proportionately sized. How plausible is it, then, that\nSilk's eye could be successfully transplanted into Pig's eye socket? I\ndon't pretend to know much about advanced physiological concepts, but it\nseems to me that Silk's eyeball would really have a lot of room in which\nto flop around.\n\nKind-of gives me the willies to think about it. :-)\n\nAny thoughts?\n\nCharles" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes", "address": "ddanehy at siebel.com" }, "date": "2002-07-17T16:25:48+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) In a Pig's Eye", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Charles Reed wrote ...\n\n... well, I mainly wanted to comment on the Subject: line. Oy! Is\nthere any reasonable doubt that (once it's been pointed out) this \nis just another example of Wolfe's carefully hidden sense of humor?\n\n\nWho let the Wolfe out? Who? Who? Who?" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "StoneOx17", "address": "stoneox17 at aol.com" }, "date": "2002-07-18T23:17:38+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) In a Pig's Eye", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "\"Charles Reed\" writes" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "I've been following the pretty high-level discussions going on\nconcerning Silk-in-Pig, Silk-23 vs Silk-43, etc. But at the risk of\nsounding both mundane and stupid, I need to ask a question regarding\nSilk giving his eye to Pig." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Pig is a (smallish) giant, but a giant nonetheless. He's what, maybe\nfour or five feet taller than Silk? Given this, Pig's head might\nreasonably be assumed to be twice as big (in diameter) as Silk's head,\nwith eye sockets proportionately sized. How plausible is it, then, that\nSilk's eye could be successfully transplanted into Pig's eye socket? I\ndon't pretend to know much about advanced physiological concepts, but it\nseems to me that Silk's eyeball would really have a lot of room in which\nto flop around." }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Any thoughts?" }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Wolfe addresses this (possibly by accident, although I doubt it) when \nSilk/Horn is talking to the godling. Silk is talking:\n\n\"Oreb can see even when it seems to me that there's no light at all.\"\n\nThere was no reply, and he wondered whether the godling had heard him. \n\"Oreb's eyes are larger than mine,\" he continued gamely, \"though Oreb is so \nmuch smaller. Your eyes seem very small to me, but that's only because they \nare small in proportion to your face. Each must be the size of Oreb's head.\"\n\nThe lesson to be taken from this, of course, is that the size of the eyes of \ngiants and godlings increases disproportionately slowly, so Pig's eyes could \nbe only slightly larger than Silk's. \n\nUntil Charles asked his question, I had assumed that the discussion of the \nsize of the godling's eyes was just incidental detail, and/or speculation on \nhow physical proportions would change in giants (after the excerpt above we \nfind that the godling's reaction time and speech are slower than Silk's). \nNow, I see that Wolfe's also very cleverly slipped in the answer to an \nobjection someone might raise about an event that happens half a book later. \nI am impressed!\n\n-- Stone Ox" } ] } ] }