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    "source": "https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3368",
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  "thread": {
    "id": 3368,
    "subject": "Silk-23 apology",
    "messages": 4,
    "voices": 4,
    "first": "2002-07-18T15:31:01+00:00",
    "last": "2002-07-19T14:50:19+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0207-1434@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-07-18T15:31:01+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Silk-23 apology",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "I apologize for bringing up the whole \"Silk-23\" thing.\n\nI never intended it to take the place of the \"submerged Silk, hidden in\nplain sight\" reading, which I readily admit is much stronger and the best\ncandidate.\n\nI'm not sure what I was thinking, but I do know that I did not want to\ndebate anything about LS/SS. I have not re-read LS/SS since the last\ndiscussion; I am not now re-reading; I have no plans to re-read in the near\nfuture.  I have not taken notes, I have no essays written, nor plans for\nessays.  So I am not in a position, nor an inclination, to discuss.\n\nSo it was foolish of me to post such messages.  And I apologize for this\nfoolishness.  If it could be \"stricken from the record\" I would gladly do\nit.\n\nA few weeks ago I located and read \"Thou Spark of Blood,\" and I thought of\nposting a message about that, but why?  Just to brag about reading it?  No\n(at least I like to think that wouldn't be the case) -- just to share notes\nabout it.  But who cares?  It is hard to get, few are inclined to make an\nattempt, and it probably isn't worth the effort to get it and read it.\nLS/SS is where the action is, and I count myself out of that material.\n\n=mantis=\n\n\nSirius Fiction\nbooklets on Gene Wolfe, John Crowley\n30 copies of \"Snake's-hands\" until OP!\nhttp://www.siriusfiction.com/"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0207-1435@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "James Jordan",
        "address": "jbjordan4 at cox.net"
      },
      "date": "2002-07-18T17:09:11+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Silk-23 apology",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0207-1434@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "text": "At 08:31 AM 7/18/2002 -0700, mantis wrote:\nI apologize for bringing up the whole \"Silk-23\" thing."
        },
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          "text": "         Hey! Don't apologize! This is all for fun anyway, and you're \nthoughts are always interesting.\n\nNutria"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0207-1438@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Mark Millman",
        "address": "millman at heimdallr.dyndns.org"
      },
      "date": "2002-07-18T17:56:01+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Silk-23 apology",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0207-1435@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "text": "mantis,\n\nI, for one, would be interested in hearing your thoughts\non \"Thou Spark of Blood\", if you still feel that you have\nsomething to say about it.  I can't promise you that it\nwill generate much discussion, but your insights are al-\nways worthwhile.\n\nOr could you make the same observations about \"When I was\nMing the Merciless\" (which is so much easier to find)?  I\ncan't easily think of a story that treats the aspects of\n\"Spark\" that aren't similar to \"Ming\", (maybe \"The Other\nDead Man\" or \"Silhouette\", though the other point is more\ndifficult) but perhaps a good analogue will occur to you.\n\nIf only we weren't so ethical!--the story is short enough\nto e-mail without much trouble.  Would anyone be inter-\nested in helping to organize a lending-library system for\nthe more obscure stuff?  I'll volunteer the texts and the\npostage.\n\nNacre"
        },
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Michael Andre-Driussi wrote:\n[snip]\n\nA few weeks ago I located and read \"Thou Spark\nof Blood,\" and I thought of posting a message\nabout that, but why?  Just to brag about read-\ning it?  No (at least I like to think that\nwouldn't be the case) -- just to share notes\nabout it.  But who cares?  It is hard to get,\nfew are inclined to make an attempt, and it\nprobably isn't worth the effort to get it and\nread it.  LS/SS is where the action is, and I\ncount myself out of that material.\n\n=mantis=\n\n\nSirius Fiction\nbooklets on Gene Wolfe, John Crowley\n30 copies of \"Snake's-hands\" until OP!\nhttp://www.siriusfiction.com/"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0207-1442@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Adam Stephanides",
        "address": "adamsteph at earthlink.net"
      },
      "date": "2002-07-19T14:50:19+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Silk-23 apology",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0207-1438@digest.urth.net>",
      "reply_link": "subject",
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          "text": "As Nutria said, no need to apologize; it was an interesting discussion.  And\nyou're not the only one to hold the Silk-reboot model; in fact, it may be\nthe majority view among those who've posted on the topic.  And I haven't\nreread LS/SS either.  (No need to apologize for not wanting to continue the\ndiscussion, either.)\n\nAnd thanks for posting on \"Thou Spark of Blood.\"  Sounds like something\nworth looking for after all, though not worth paying an exorbitant amount\nfor.\n\n--Adam"
        }
      ]
    }
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