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  "thread": {
    "id": 3474,
    "subject": "PEACE and salvation",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2002-10-05T20:09:53+00:00",
    "last": "2002-10-05T20:09:53+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0210-1807@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "James Jordan",
        "address": "jbjordan4 at cox.net"
      },
      "date": "2002-10-05T20:09:53+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) PEACE and salvation",
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          "text": "Just a note from a theologian:"
        },
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "At 01:41 PM 10/5/2002, Roy wrote:\nSo, Herr Hitler and Mother Theresa were equal in God's eyes; what they\ndid in their lives had no bearing on their eternal fate."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
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          "text": "         \"Equal in God's eyes\" is tricky, but I know what you mean. No. \nThey start out the same: conceived in iniquity and born dead in trespasses \nand sins, and thus with an inbuilt tendency to rebel more and more against \nGod. But their condition inherited from Adam is (more than) matched by the \ngrace offered by God to those who turn to Him. And that's where the whole \ncourse of one's life comes in. Hitler did not turn, and got worse and \nworse. Mother T. did turn, and became a saint."
        },
        {
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          "text": "I don't want to get into another theological conflict; I cede you the\nhigh ground. But you can't tell me, so far as Wolfe's religious beliefs\ncan be inferred from his work, that he believes the acts of an\nindividual in life are not weighed in the final balance, regardless of\ntechnical conformity to Christian/Catholic dogma."
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          "text": "         To be sure. But Wolfe would also allow for deathbed conversions. \nNot that this is probably going on in PEACE.\n\nPatera Nutria"
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