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This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact.", "addresses": "obscured as 'user at host'" }, "archive": "urth", "thread": { "id": 3501, "subject": "PEACE: Weer's Room", "messages": 3, "voices": 3, "first": "2002-10-22T15:00:42+00:00", "last": "2002-10-22T19:08:38+00:00" }, "messages": [ { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "StoneOx17", "address": "stoneox17 at aol.com" }, "date": "2002-10-22T15:00:42+00:00", "subject": "(urth) PEACE: Weer's Room", "in_reply_to": null, "reply_link": null, "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "When the falling of the elm awakens Weer, he finds himself \nin a room with a fieldstone fireplace. He seems to have \nbeen intermittently awake between his death and the fall \nof the tree, but to have lived mainly in this room. Where \nis this room?\n\nConsider its shape. It's described as a long walled-in \nporch, and it has a stone (fireplace) at one end. It's \nWeer's coffin.\n\n-- Stone Ox\n\nSafe in their Alabaster Chambers,\nUntouched by Morning and Untouched by Noon,\nSleep the meek members of the Resurrection,\nRafter of Satin and Roof of stone.\n\n Emily Dickinson" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi", "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com" }, "date": "2002-10-22T18:46:33+00:00", "subject": "Re: (urth) PEACE: Weer's Room", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Stone Ox wrote:\nWhen the falling of the elm awakens Weer, he finds himself\nin a room with a fieldstone fireplace. He seems to have\nbeen intermittently awake between his death and the fall\nof the tree, but to have lived mainly in this room. Where\nis this room?\n\nConsider its shape. It's described as a long walled-in\nporch, and it has a stone (fireplace) at one end. It's\nWeer's coffin." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Very nice! Have we ever seen that before? I don't think so. Gotten\nclose, with \"the memory mansion is all inside the hollow skull\" stuff, via\nthe Necronomicon passage.\n\nIt leads to another interesting possibility: what if the physically real\nfoundation of the memory mansion is, somehow, the other coffins at the\ncemetary where Weer is presumably buried (if he is not buried on the\ngrounds of the physical memory mansion, ala Elvis at Graceland)? Thus,\nsome (all?) of the rooms he visits are really just the coffins of others?\nAnd it really is a confused tour of a necropolis.\n\n(Because we have often wrestled with the interface between Weer's AD 2274\nenvironment and the physical world, if such an interface actually exists.\nIf the mansion really exists, call it Weerland, then he is a ghost haunting\nthat place, thinking that he is somehow the last man on Earth; if the\nmansion does not exist, then what is he conflating with the idea of the\nmansion?)\n\nAbout that first room: he seems to think it represents the real mansion\nthat he moved to from his tiny apartment, a place he lived in from around\nage 50 to his death at 60-something. This would be the place that had the\ngarbage disposal in the kitchen sink, for example.\n\n=mantis=" } ] }, { "message_id": "", "from": { "name": "James Wynn", "address": "crushtv at hotpop.com" }, "date": "2002-10-22T19:08:38+00:00", "subject": "RE: (urth) PEACE: Weer's Room", "in_reply_to": "", "reply_link": "subject", "blocks": [ { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "I haven't read Peace but I'll offer that in alchemy, the \"egg\" is associated\nwith the coffin.\n\n-- Tuppence tossing Crush\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Michael Andre-Driussi [mailto:mantis at siriusfiction.com]\nSent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:47 PM\nTo: urth at urth.net\nSubject: Re: (urth) PEACE: Weer's Room" }, { "kind": "quote", "depth": 1, "text": "Stone Ox wrote:\nWhen the falling of the elm awakens Weer, he finds himself\nin a room with a fieldstone fireplace. He seems to have\nbeen intermittently awake between his death and the fall\nof the tree, but to have lived mainly in this room. Where\nis this room?\n\nConsider its shape. It's described as a long walled-in\nporch, and it has a stone (fireplace) at one end. It's\nWeer's coffin." }, { "kind": "text", "depth": 0, "text": "Very nice! Have we ever seen that before? I don't think so. Gotten\nclose, with \"the memory mansion is all inside the hollow skull\" stuff, via\nthe Necronomicon passage.\n\nIt leads to another interesting possibility: what if the physically real\nfoundation of the memory mansion is, somehow, the other coffins at the\ncemetary where Weer is presumably buried (if he is not buried on the\ngrounds of the physical memory mansion, ala Elvis at Graceland)? Thus,\nsome (all?) of the rooms he visits are really just the coffins of others?\nAnd it really is a confused tour of a necropolis.\n\n(Because we have often wrestled with the interface between Weer's AD 2274\nenvironment and the physical world, if such an interface actually exists.\nIf the mansion really exists, call it Weerland, then he is a ghost haunting\nthat place, thinking that he is somehow the last man on Earth; if the\nmansion does not exist, then what is he conflating with the idea of the\nmansion?)\n\nAbout that first room: he seems to think it represents the real mansion\nthat he moved to from his tiny apartment, a place he lived in from around\nage 50 to his death at 60-something. This would be the place that had the\ngarbage disposal in the kitchen sink, for example.\n\n=mantis=" }, { "kind": "sig", "depth": 0, "text": "-- " } ] } ] }