PEACE: Weer's Room The Urth list — 3 messages, 3 voices, 22 Oct 2002 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3501 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== StoneOx17 — 22 Oct 2002, 15:00 When the falling of the elm awakens Weer, he finds himself in a room with a fieldstone fireplace. He seems to have been intermittently awake between his death and the fall of the tree, but to have lived mainly in this room. Where is this room? Consider its shape. It's described as a long walled-in porch, and it has a stone (fireplace) at one end. It's Weer's coffin. -- Stone Ox Safe in their Alabaster Chambers, Untouched by Morning and Untouched by Noon, Sleep the meek members of the Resurrection, Rafter of Satin and Roof of stone. Emily Dickinson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Andre-Driussi — 22 Oct 2002, 18:46 follows, by subject match StoneOx17 > Stone Ox wrote: > When the falling of the elm awakens Weer, he finds himself > in a room with a fieldstone fireplace. He seems to have > been intermittently awake between his death and the fall > of the tree, but to have lived mainly in this room. Where > is this room? > > Consider its shape. It's described as a long walled-in > porch, and it has a stone (fireplace) at one end. It's > Weer's coffin. Very nice! Have we ever seen that before? I don't think so. Gotten close, with "the memory mansion is all inside the hollow skull" stuff, via the Necronomicon passage. It leads to another interesting possibility: what if the physically real foundation of the memory mansion is, somehow, the other coffins at the cemetary where Weer is presumably buried (if he is not buried on the grounds of the physical memory mansion, ala Elvis at Graceland)? Thus, some (all?) of the rooms he visits are really just the coffins of others? And it really is a confused tour of a necropolis. (Because we have often wrestled with the interface between Weer's AD 2274 environment and the physical world, if such an interface actually exists. If the mansion really exists, call it Weerland, then he is a ghost haunting that place, thinking that he is somehow the last man on Earth; if the mansion does not exist, then what is he conflating with the idea of the mansion?) About that first room: he seems to think it represents the real mansion that he moved to from his tiny apartment, a place he lived in from around age 50 to his death at 60-something. This would be the place that had the garbage disposal in the kitchen sink, for example. =mantis= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ James Wynn — 22 Oct 2002, 19:08 follows, by subject match Michael Andre-Driussi I haven't read Peace but I'll offer that in alchemy, the "egg" is associated with the coffin. -- Tuppence tossing Crush -----Original Message----- From: Michael Andre-Driussi [mailto:mantis at siriusfiction.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:47 PM To: urth at urth.net Subject: Re: (urth) PEACE: Weer's Room > Stone Ox wrote: > When the falling of the elm awakens Weer, he finds himself > in a room with a fieldstone fireplace. He seems to have > been intermittently awake between his death and the fall > of the tree, but to have lived mainly in this room. Where > is this room? > > Consider its shape. It's described as a long walled-in > porch, and it has a stone (fireplace) at one end. It's > Weer's coffin. Very nice! Have we ever seen that before? I don't think so. Gotten close, with "the memory mansion is all inside the hollow skull" stuff, via the Necronomicon passage. It leads to another interesting possibility: what if the physically real foundation of the memory mansion is, somehow, the other coffins at the cemetary where Weer is presumably buried (if he is not buried on the grounds of the physical memory mansion, ala Elvis at Graceland)? Thus, some (all?) of the rooms he visits are really just the coffins of others? And it really is a confused tour of a necropolis. (Because we have often wrestled with the interface between Weer's AD 2274 environment and the physical world, if such an interface actually exists. If the mansion really exists, call it Weerland, then he is a ghost haunting that place, thinking that he is somehow the last man on Earth; if the mansion does not exist, then what is he conflating with the idea of the mansion?) About that first room: he seems to think it represents the real mansion that he moved to from his tiny apartment, a place he lived in from around age 50 to his death at 60-something. This would be the place that had the garbage disposal in the kitchen sink, for example. =mantis= -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------