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  "thread": {
    "id": 3511,
    "subject": "PEACE: Roy gathers some scattered notes",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2002-10-24T19:56:09+00:00",
    "last": "2002-10-24T19:56:09+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0210-1931@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-10-24T19:56:09+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) PEACE: Roy gathers some scattered notes",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "depth": 2,
          "text": "Roy quoted me and wrote:\n5) Weer's Christmas presents at age five: the knife and a book.  Is it the\none containing \"princess and her three suitors\" and ben Yahya?  Yes, it\nseems! (167, 194)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "Den was about 6-and-a-half (May to December) years old that Christmas. (17)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Oops!  Right.  Says so right on the page that he was six."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "8) Porcelain objects: the Napoleon figure, the elephant foot rest, the\nchina pillow."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "You forgot the famous egg! (106)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "And I also didn't mention the \"china\" hen (really milk glass) that Olivia\nleft to represent herself (as she said) in the cave with the skull (the\ncave leading to the hole in the side of the china pillow).  There might be\nmore porcelain as well.  The complex tangle of images surrounding Olivia\n(bird, hen; egg; monster) -- she is definitely \"China,\" among other things,\nand I guess since Smart is short and her husband, then he becomes \"emperor\nof china\" as a porcelain statue of Napoleon."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "11) Writing materials: first mentioned in interruption of Tilly Tale (145),\nnotebook and pen (next para), scribbling (159).  The TAT card showing\nwriter comes later (166), so it is not being originated there.  Pen, paper,\nillness (194).  Notebook and pen, writing in the apartment in the Commons\n(216)."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "I don't know if it is significant, but just before writing of Arabella's\narticle he mentions using a pen, in the frametale memory-mansion office\n(181). As a child Den was probably using a pencil to \"scribble on paper, and\nto draw little pictures\", as his mother told Bella just before Bella started\nreading. After writing of the article, he says he has left the office for\n\"Mab Crawford's kitchen\", where he sits \"still scratching with my little\npencil, at her kitchen table\" (187). It seems Weer has reverted from\ngrown-up president to child, in the frametale, or is trying to."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Your 181 is my 194, I believe.  (Well no, I'm sure of it -- I'm looking at\nit right now!)  Good point about the pencil -- I think he =is= regressing,\nand I think he always regresses in these time-travel haunting episodes.\n\n=mantis="
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