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  "thread": {
    "id": 3523,
    "subject": "PEACE: Charlie Turner, Doris, 1963",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2002-10-28T23:13:08+00:00",
    "last": "2002-10-28T23:13:08+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0210-1972@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-10-28T23:13:08+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) PEACE: Charlie Turner, Doris, 1963",
      "in_reply_to": null,
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          "text": "Roy wrote:\nThat sentence I mentioned is one of those long, convoluted ones Wolfe uses\nfrom time to time. Those kinds of sentences are always hard to puzzle out."
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          "text": "In my recent re-reading I was struck by the Proustian quality of the\nsentence structure, and paragraph structure.  The sentence structure is\nvery dense and noodly; the paragraphs flow through unseen channels.  Makes\nquoting the text even more of a challenge than usual, since the \"conceptual\nunits\" get pretty big (to the point where whole sentences are like single\nletters of a long word).\n\nAnyway, I'm back to the 1963 node of the three visitors . . .\n\nIn the past we spoke of Charlie Turner's motive.  Someone at one point\nwrote that Charlie was seeking freak-making medicine from Weer; with the\nimplication that Smart had been running that old carny deal from the\nbackdoor all those years.\n\nThis makes a lot of sense.  Charlie is testing Weer to find out if the same\ndeal can still be done with the new president.  But Weer does not seem to\nhave the knowledge of freak-making chemistry, so the whole thing falls\nthrough.\n\nNow then, on to Doris.\n\nDoris may be real or she may be fictitious.  But here's the point (and I\nthink this part is new, but maybe not): the best solution for Doris is\n=not= marriage to Tom Lavine the Canadian Giant (which is what Weer comes\nup with), the best solution is to give her the stuff to make her a freak.\nAfter all, the story is being told by a freak who knows he has had a better\nlife because he was made a freak; whose mother knew she was giving him a\nbetter life by making him a freak.  This is part of the test or trial\nballoon that Charlie is using on Weer and Weer flunks.\n\nThe news of Doris's death seems to really upset Weer.  I sense that he\nfeels responsible, if only for trying to dream up a happy ending for her;\nhe may also feel impotent, since here he is now king of the town and he\ncannot even help one little orphan in another state (again, not to get into\nany details about what he might have done beyond just talking with\nCharlie). It may be the mundane world trigger for the \"nervous breakdown\" I\nalledge he has in 1963.  Having read that one letter he is too upset to\nread the Peacock letter, or so it seems to me.\n\n=mantis=\n\n\nSirius Fiction\nbooklets on Gene Wolfe, John Crowley\n29 copies of \"Snake's-hands\" until OP!\nhttp://www.siriusfiction.com/"
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