# King Jesus and Mary *The Urth list — 1 messages, 1 voices, 16 Nov 2002* > Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright > in each message remains with the person who wrote it. > Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original > archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than > retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. --- ### Don Doggett *16 Nov 2002, 05:42* Jerry Friedman asks: "(Does Graves' Jesus have sex with Mary the Hairdresser?)" To which I answer (shocked!): Why no, no he doesn't. In fact he doesn't even have sex with his own wife. The Jesus of KJ is basically heretical (and I say heretical because the narrator is supposedly getting his information from an Ebionite priest) only in that he is not divine and that he is posited as the true and rightful heir of King Herod the Great. Which reminds me, of all the women that Severian has supposedly had sex with, have you noticed that there is no mention of sex with Valeria? What if Severian has never had sex? I mean, he sure does brag about it a lot. Don ---