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  "thread": {
    "id": 3587,
    "subject": "Astral Projection - The First Time",
    "messages": 1,
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    "first": "2002-11-18T18:14:33+00:00",
    "last": "2002-11-18T18:14:33+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0211-2150@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Charles Reed",
        "address": "cmreed at link.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-11-18T18:14:33+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Astral Projection - The First Time",
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          "text": "Joe Cilluffo wrote:\nWhen Horn is trapped in the pit that Krait rescues him from,\n... <snip> ...\nHorn proceeds to have an hallucination about Nettle cooking for him"
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          "text": "This is extremely ancillary to the main topic about Blue and Ushas, but \nI just thought about the above.\n\nI don't think Horn is hallucinating.  I think this is the first \noccurrence of his \"astral projection\" thing, although he's not aware \nthat that's what it is.  Consider the facts we know:\n\n(1) This projection thing was most likely something that the Neighbors \ncould do and which some -- perhaps all -- of the inhumi \"inherited\" from \nthem through the drinking of their blood.  Horn's ability to project is \ndependent on there being an inhumi nearby and occurs during sleep.\n\n(2) The place projected to has to be a place familiar to the one \nprojecting, or at least to one of the group of people who are sleeping \nand projecting together.  Also, there seems to be a need for the \nperson/group to concentrate or visualize the place to which they wish to \nproject.  [Off-topic note:  this has always reminded me more than a \nlittle of the ability to \"jaunte\" as described in Alfred Bester's THE \nSTARS, MY DESTINATION.]\n\nBoth facts apply in the case of Horn in the pit.  He was \nasleep/unconscious, thought he was dying, and his thoughts no doubt \nwould have been of the home and wife he believed he would never see \nagain.  Krait, being nearby, allowed the projection to occur.  It wasn't \na hallucination.  It was real to him, and it was real to Nettle.\n\nThis, by the way, answers a question I have had for some time:  Once \nHorn realized he had the ability to perform such projections, why didn't \nhe ever project himself back home to Nettle to let her know he was all \nright?\n\nThe answer, I believe, relates directly to this scene.  Nettle was \nreally freaked out by Horn's sudden appearance, and was pretty much \nhysterical from what I recall.  Once Horn realized that he could, \nintentionally, project himself back to Nettle, he wouldn't have because \nhe knew it would scare the living daylights out of her.  (That sounds \nkind-of flippant, but I don't mean it to be.)  On top of that, by the \ntime he was starting to get a grip on his new ability, he would have \nknown that his projected self didn't look exactly like Horn anymore, \nwhich would have scared Nettle even more.\n\nAnyway, that's it for now.  Any thoughts?\n\nCharles"
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