absurd time anchor The Urth list — 2 messages, 2 voices, 27 Nov 2002 https://urth.darkrealm.vip/thread/urth/3620 Exported from an unofficial mirror of a public mailing list. Copyright in each message remains with the person who wrote it. Email addresses are obscured as `user at host`, the form the original archive published. This file was rebuilt from parsed fields rather than retained headers, so it is faithful in content but not byte-exact. ============================================================================== maa32 — 27 Nov 2002, 14:50 Here are two absurd theories that attempt to account for the time travel to that particular point in Urth's history where Silk can meet Severian as a young man. Here is one: that Severian is actually going back with them to be placed in the tomb he will one day lie in - part of Scylla is Severian, who is ACTUALLY the dark spot floating next to the boat in both worlds (as the Vanished Person Swimmer who comes up on Horn's boat)- and perhaps he is folded into himself in the past of Urth and this explains why Severian always had some presentiment of his future from the very beginning. Of course, this only accouts for Severian's presence on Blue in the last two visits to Urth, not in the first case with Rigolio. Or perhaps when he goes back he joins up with Scylla to rest inside Oreb. But it does account for his statement that he will end up in that tomb, which we have never seen actuated. The other is that Severian is a vortex of time - a vivimancer, who attracts anyone with the ability to cross time (like the green man or Ossipago, et al.) Or the affinity between Malrubius and Silk could serve as that anchor. I need to re-read the texts again. I will find a link the next time through. Marc Aramini ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris — 27 Nov 2002, 17:05 follows, by subject match maa32 I don't know about the first (though I have my own theory as to Severian's presentiments, and the apparent Severian/Severian-2 deal). With the second, though, the problem is that even if Severian is a sort of magnet for such events, Severian is practically everywhere and everywhen. So not only does he have to be a vortex, but he has to be more of a vortex at that *particular* time than any other time. Chris > Here are two absurd theories that attempt to account for the time travel to > that particular point in Urth's history where Silk can meet Severian as a > young man. > Here is one: that Severian is actually going back with them to be placed in > the tomb he will one day lie in - part of Scylla is Severian, who is > ACTUALLY > the dark spot floating next to the boat in both worlds (as the Vanished > Person > Swimmer who comes up on Horn's boat)- and perhaps he is folded into himself > in > the past of Urth and this explains why Severian always had some > presentiment > of his future from the very beginning. Of course, this only accouts for > Severian's presence on Blue in the last two visits to Urth, not in the > first > case with Rigolio. Or perhaps when he goes back he joins up with Scylla to > rest inside Oreb. But it does account for his statement that he will end > up > in that tomb, which we have never seen actuated. > > The other is that Severian is a vortex of time - a vivimancer, who attracts > anyone with the ability to cross time (like the green man or Ossipago, et > al.) > > Or the affinity between Malrubius and Silk could serve as that anchor. I > need > to re-read the texts again. I will find a link the next time through. > Marc Aramini > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------