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  "thread": {
    "id": 3635,
    "subject": "Free Live Free, the unnamed city",
    "messages": 2,
    "voices": 2,
    "first": "2002-12-02T15:30:17+00:00",
    "last": "2002-12-02T22:54:20+00:00"
  },
  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2306@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Michael Andre-Driussi",
        "address": "mantis at siriusfiction.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-02T15:30:17+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Free Live Free, the unnamed city",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "Roy wrote:\nBut I think you're looking in the\nwrong place for the city. It's not in the Midwest, if it exists at all; it's\non the East Coast. I have only the Tor paperback, so I don't know the HC\npage number, but on the second page of chapter 59 Free looks out the window\nof the cockpit and sees the \"tossing waters of the Atlantic\"."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "Good catch!  That does narrow things down quite a bit."
        },
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "The _High Country_ doesn't stray from protected US airspace--that's why it\nwas built. It seems to circle, more or less; at least it doesn't seem to\never be out of a short-range flight of the shuttle B-17, and the B-17 takes\noff and lands from the old military base near the modern airport."
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          "text": "I agree, but rather than \"circle\" I think it more kind of hovers.  (For the\ntime travel from High Country 1942 to High Country 1952, I think it really\nhas to be as \"in place\" as a building on the ground.  It is in a\n\"geo-synchronous orbit\" while still being within the atmosphere.)  There is\nthat talk of the atmospheric winds blowing from west to east, and gliding."
        },
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          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "And the\nFlying Carpet is near the airport. The flask and the matches point to New\nYork City. I don't think that is the city, but the city is probably close to\nNYC. The television commentator said it was a major US city. It's definitely\nnot Philadelphia. It's far enough north to get cold and have snow. If the\nshuttle used in 1942 operated under the same conditions as in 1982-3 (never\ntoo far from _High Country_), then that plane landed at Langley Field,\nVirginia. The high and mighty aboard the _High Country_ probably wanted to\nstay close to the center of government power in Washington DC. The city, if\nit exists, should be between there and NYC, as I see it."
        },
        {
          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "That narrows it down dramatically!  There are not that many major cities\nbetween DC and NYC, and tending toward the coast: Baltimore, Wilmington\n(major?), Philadelphia, Atlantic City (major?), and Trenton (major?).\n\n=mantis="
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2327@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "Jerry Friedman",
        "address": "jerry_friedman at yahoo.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-02T22:54:20+00:00",
      "subject": "Re: (urth) Free Live Free, the unnamed city",
      "in_reply_to": "<urth-v0212-2306@digest.urth.net>",
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "--- Michael Andre-Driussi <mantis at siriusfiction.com> wrote:\nRoy wrote:"
        },
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          "kind": "text",
          "depth": 0,
          "text": "..."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "And the\nFlying Carpet is near the airport. The flask and the matches point to\nNew\nYork City. I don't think that is the city, but the city is probably\nclose to\nNYC. The television commentator said it was a major US city. It's\ndefinitely\nnot Philadelphia. It's far enough north to get cold and have snow. If\nthe\nshuttle used in 1942 operated under the same conditions as in 1982-3\n(never\ntoo far from _High Country_), then that plane landed at Langley Field,\nVirginia. The high and mighty aboard the _High Country_ probably wanted\nto\nstay close to the center of government power in Washington DC. The\ncity, if\nit exists, should be between there and NYC, as I see it."
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 1,
          "text": "That narrows it down dramatically!  There are not that many major cities\nbetween DC and NYC, and tending toward the coast: Baltimore, Wilmington\n(major?), Philadelphia, Atlantic City (major?), and Trenton (major?)."
        },
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          "text": "I think Newark is a possibility too.  And why not a little bit\nnorth/east of New York?  Say New Haven, or more likely Providence,\nhome of Lovecraft.  For some reason I always suspected it was B'more,\nbut that may be only a reflection of my ignorance.\n\nJerry Friedman"
        }
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