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  "thread": {
    "id": 3639,
    "subject": "new words I plan to use :-)",
    "messages": 1,
    "voices": 1,
    "first": "2002-12-02T23:37:59+00:00",
    "last": "2002-12-02T23:37:59+00:00"
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  "messages": [
    {
      "message_id": "<urth-v0212-2332@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "James Wynn",
        "address": "crushtv at hotpop.com"
      },
      "date": "2002-12-02T23:37:59+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) new words I plan to use :-)",
      "in_reply_to": null,
      "reply_link": null,
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          "text": "diegesis\n[NL., fr. Gr. ?, fr. — to narrate; dia` through + ? to lead.]\nA narrative or history; a recital or relation.\nThe world in which the narrative is set. In other words, the world fictional\ncharacters inhabit.\n\ndiegetic space\nThe physical world in which the narrative action of the television program\ntakes place.\n\ndiegetic sound\nDialogue, music and sound effects that occur in the diegetic space of the\ntelevision program. I.e., sound that is part of the characters' world.\n\nI can, of course, see how this is applicable in Relativity explanations.\nThanks Jerry.\n\n-- Crush\n\n-----Original Message-----\nFrom: Jerry Friedman [mailto:jerry_friedman at yahoo.com]\nSent: Monday, December 02, 2002 5:22 PM\nTo: urth at urth.net\nSubject: RE: (urth) The Blushas Challenge: Round Two"
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "--- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <ddanehy at siebel.com> wrote:\nJerry F wrote..."
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          "text": "..."
        },
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          "text": "[From]\nthe point of view of the fictional universe (the deictic\npoint of view?),"
        },
        {
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          "depth": 1,
          "text": "(OK, I really do not understand this use of the word \"deictic.\")"
        },
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          "text": "My mistake.  \"Diegetic\".  There, that should be much clearer.  :-)"
        },
        {
          "kind": "quote",
          "depth": 2,
          "text": "there are powers above the stage, and they\nmay easily have had some reason for wanting to arrange a\nmeeting--such as to have Severian resurrect Silk."
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          "text": "They may indeed, but even this is slightly askew to the\nquestion ... I am asking the pro-Blushas faction to\ndescribe some mechanism, internal to the fictive universe,\nconsistent with the text and ideally with some modicum of\ntextual support, which simplifies a reading of the \"astral\ntravel\" segments of the text at least as much as they are\ncomplicated by accepting the Blue = Ushas theory in the\nfirst place -- keeping in mind that one of the more\nsignificant complexities so introduced is astral time\ntravel itself; let the Bleen system be 800LY or so from\nUrth and we can just assume that the timelines are\nsimultaneous (whatever _that_ means in a universe which\nconforms to Einstein, Lorenz-FitzGerald, etc.)"
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          "text": "\"Simplifies\".  I can't help with that.\n\nJerry Friedman"
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