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  "thread": {
    "id": 365,
    "subject": "Thoughts on the Black Hole",
    "messages": 1,
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    "first": "1998-02-08T18:08:58+00:00",
    "last": "1998-02-08T18:08:58+00:00"
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      "message_id": "<urth-v0007-0540@digest.urth.net>",
      "from": {
        "name": "CRCulver",
        "address": "crculver at aol.com"
      },
      "date": "1998-02-08T18:08:58+00:00",
      "subject": "(urth) Thoughts on the Black Hole",
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          "text": "Friends,\n\nIn _Shadow_, chapter XXXV, there is the tale of the woman who brings black\nbeans from the stars. This woman threatens to cast them into the sea unless\nshe were obeyed. The lords of the time \"a hundred times more complete in\ntheir dominion than [the] Autarch...had her seized and torn to bits.\"\nThis story seems, in my opinion, to show the planting of the black hole in\nthe Old Sun. I think that the sea mentioned is not Ocean but rather\nOroborus(sp?), which is outer space. The lords, I think, are the monarchs,\nbecause they were more powerful and had a larger empire than those of the\nautarchy. Thus, the black hole was put into the sun because of the tyranny of\nthe monarchs.\nWho is this woman? The idea expressed by some on the list is that the\nConciliator/New-Sun-himself put the black hole into the sun. But, if this\nstory were true, it was not he, but rather a woman. Could it be Tzadkiel?\nAfter all, she is one of great power who could do such a thing, and is of\nhigher authority than men. But, I am not sure that she could be ripped apart.\n\nThere is an alternative interpretation of this story. Jonas mentions that\nthis happens before the city was called Nessus, because \"the river\" was not\nyet poisoned. Perhaps the black beans that the woman brought from the stars\nwere simply a device used to poison Gyoll.\nI would like to know the etymology of 'Nessus' and what relation it has to\npoison.\n\nChristopher R. Culver <crculver at aol.com>\nhttp://members.aol.com/crculver/index.html\n------------------------------------------------\n\"Ignorance, that light of fools steers a wayward path\"\n-Brendan Perry"
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